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Fewer people are buying electric cars in the US

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Re: Fewer people are buying electric cars in the US

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Post by wakawaka28 »

talldatethrow wrote: post #90

I think EVs give me LESS range anxiety overall. In my gas car days, atleast once a month I was late for work or an event AND low on gas. Having to remember and think about getting gas was constantly on my mind because I have a pretty long commute. With an electric car, I start every day, always, with a full tank. No matter how late I'm running, I know there won't be a surprise that I need gas in addition to being lat…

With a gas car, you can take off on foot and walk to a gas station or call literally anyone to give you a bit of gas. EVs on the other hand have to be towed if they run out. Also, it is far easier to predict how far you can get on a tank of gas, and they are like a mile apart or less in any slightly populated place.

Re: Fewer people are buying electric cars in the US

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Post by mattmaroon »

outlace wrote: post #627

EV’s currently make the most sense for people who own a single family home or otherwise live in a community with readily available near-home chargers, where EV’s are on average more convenient than gas cars. People who rely on street parking and apartment dwellers would likely find EV’s more inconvenient than a gas car. We may be close to saturating the market for the former group. Another factor that could be at pla…

2/3 of Americans live in a home they or their immediate family own. They’re like 2% of car sales. The market is far from saturated.

The reality is that range just isn’t there for most people, and the extra cost of an EV is far more than fuel savings.

It’s going to take a better battery chemistry. That’s it.

Re: Fewer people are buying electric cars in the US

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Post by LeafItAlone »

cryptonector wrote: post #752
vertnerd wrote: post #554

1. Range. But this speaks to the failure of the industry to provide charging infrastructure. This was one big thing that Tesla got right. 2. Price. An EV is inherently simpler to build and should cost less. Indeed, early EV offerings were almost affordable, if not for the high cost of the batteries. Now that batteries are less expensive, the automakers are pushing large, expensive cars (because they think they can se…

Who could want a pickup besides people who need a pickup?

> Who could want a pickup besides people who need a pickup?

Most of the people that buy pickups.

Re: Fewer people are buying electric cars in the US

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Post by wakawaka28 »

recursive wrote: post #753
wmeredith wrote: post #659

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah, but if you're low and have to stop for gas, it makes you 10 minutes late. In an EV you're an hour late or have to find another ride.

If you own a garage, this is not a thing that happens. One of the best advantages of EVs that many seem not to understand.

Most people in the world don't have garages. Even if they have one on the house they live in, there may be more cars in the family than can fit in the garage.

Re: Fewer people are buying electric cars in the US

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Post by JohnFen »

t_tsonev wrote: post #562
JohnFen wrote: post #543

I won't buy any car, electric or ICE, that comes with a data connection to someone else's server. That appears to include all EVs.

I've got some bad news for you...

What's that? That I can only buy old vehicles? I already know that, it's been true for a while now.

Re: Fewer people are buying electric cars in the US

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Post by maerF0x0 »

twism wrote: post #233
maerF0x0 wrote: post #201

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Not unique to electric vehicles

I had thought there were brands which did not do this.

Turns out Kia, Subaru, Ford, GM all do this already (those are the ones I could quickly find).

Additionally by 2026 all cars will have a kill switch if "they" determine you're impaired. Which could be anything from your blood alcohol level, to your social credit score has dropped below a threshold, to a criminal has hacked in, to a disgruntled girlfriend in the FBI can disable the car legally or illegally.

Re: Fewer people are buying electric cars in the US

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Post by doctorpangloss »

everdrive wrote: post #720
outlace wrote: post #627

EV’s currently make the most sense for people who own a single family home or otherwise live in a community with readily available near-home chargers, where EV’s are on average more convenient than gas cars. People who rely on street parking and apartment dwellers would likely find EV’s more inconvenient than a gas car. We may be close to saturating the market for the former group. Another factor that could be at pla…

I'd take that even further. EVs make the most sense when all the conditions you noted are satisfied, _and_ the family can afford at least two cars, and it's not important that both cars have long range, and the family can afford the extra up-front cost of the EV. I've got a Nissan Frontier and a Nissan Leaf. The Leaf is older (2017) and has a degraded battery. (about 80% of its original life, and approximately 100 mi…

> _and_ the family can afford at least two cars

So you're saying EVs make the most sense for "people who buy cars?"

Can't fault manufacturers for targeting that audience.

Anyway you are pulling on the thread of unique selling points (USPs) which are among the many prevailing traditions in autos sales. I don't know how much they really matter in a secular sense.

Re: Fewer people are buying electric cars in the US

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Post by light_hue_1 »

aquaticsunset wrote: post #774
outlace wrote: post #627

EV’s currently make the most sense for people who own a single family home or otherwise live in a community with readily available near-home chargers, where EV’s are on average more convenient than gas cars. People who rely on street parking and apartment dwellers would likely find EV’s more inconvenient than a gas car. We may be close to saturating the market for the former group. Another factor that could be at pla…

I think the market for the current lineup of EVs is tapping out. My wife and I own one that was very comparably equipped to a similar luxury crossover / SUV, and the type of driving we do in that car is perfectly within the capabilities of our range & charging habits. Never going to gas stations or getting the annual oil change is a nice convenient perk for us. But we fit right in this targeted demographic: 1) Can af…

You definitely don't need a second ICE car for long trips. We don't have one. Long trips in our EV work perfectly.
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