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Re: A Canadian payroll dependency chart

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This is the worst version of Planarity I've ever seen, congrats.

For those that haven't played it, Planarity is a graph untangling game. https://www.jasondavies.com/planarity/

This version is really good

Re: A Canadian payroll dependency chart

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It would be nice if accountancy fees were tax-deductible.

Corporations can, not people. Maybe because the size of revenue from both groups.

Possibly. But if they were tax-deductible from people, it'd be a nice downward pressure on more complex rules on getting money from people.

Re: A Canadian payroll dependency chart

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"trivial and mostly automatic" - but not so automatic that it's done for you, as in some other countries. And that's by design - Intuit still wants their cash cow providing that sweet sweet revenue every tax season.

I don't see how Intuit has any pull on Canadian tax law or influence with the CRA. And there are plenty of alternatives. I used ufile.ca for years, way cheaper. And honestly, just picking up the form and doing it yourself is all my parents did for years. I'm pretty sure we'll see what you're asking for within the next 5-10 years. With them already having the T4s, etc. I don't see why they couldn't have you login to t…

According to someone who worked for a popular accounting software company, Canadian tax law is amongst the most complicated in the world. Many companies benefit from this, and it's long been shown that they lobby to keep it this way (in the USA at least). Assuming similar motives and incentives in Canada isn't a particularly big stretch.

But if what you describe comes to pass - even just for simple returns for individuals - I'll be pleasantly surprised.

Re: A Canadian payroll dependency chart

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"Needed help" because the powers of the day decided to lock down the economy far past any reasonable length of time. I suppose if I quit my job I "need help" feeding myself too. Another example is Quebec sitting on a gargantuan natural gas reserve, but preferring to keep it in the ground because it's more advantageous to simply receive payments from other provinces (Alberta). Carbon/emission considerations aside, thi…

>Carbon/emission considerations aside This seems like a massive thing to just throw aside.

Sure, but I'm talking specifically about incentives here. If it wasn't for the inverted incentive structure that benefits them (also from fossil fuels, but that money comes from Alberta), I'm sure they'd be more than willing to extract that resource.

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>And to think, in the US we revolted because the king wanted to tax Tea 3%.... There is an important difference between then and now and it's called the US Congress. It wasn't about the amount of the tax on tea but rather the fact we didn't vote for it If we don't like the current tax system we have a surefire way to fix it, but we never actually take advantage of it (vote for someone else)

>It wasn't about the amount of the tax on tea but rather the fact we didn't vote for it I didn't vote for the US Congress...

A majority of US citizens did, though

You're entitled to have your voice heard, you're not entitled to get exactly what you want

Re: A Canadian payroll dependency chart

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Also don't get me started that I can't use an api to get my account details and statements in Canada. Anyone know if there's any ongoing effort to this effect - i.e. to force banks to implement a common API for querying data held in their accounts? A brief search reveals that Canada is of course missing from https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open_banking

Weird, is Open Banking only a thing in Turkiye? I have all my bank accounts added to my primary bank’s app, though it’s read only and I can view balances and transactions.

Going out on a limb to say ironically it's easier for the developing world to implement this stuff because they're so much less entrenched to begin with. Have also seen this in South Africa for example.

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Yes, and heavily subsidized by other parts of Canada via transfer payments.

Well transfer payments are a lot more complicated than some folks would have you believe - Canada as a nation benefits from all our parts being within a common business zone so while some areas are mineral rich other areas have strong service economies that have needed help through the pandemic.

>Canada as a nation benefits from all our parts being within a common business zone

But there is no Free Trade between Provinces (Inter-Provincial Trade). Canadian Provinces have more Free Trade with the USA and Mexico than they do with each other. Canada isn't really a country in the economic sense. And aren't there restrictions on professions like Engineers and Nurses such that you can't just pick up sticks and go to work in another Province? There's bureaucratic paperwork to fill out before you are good to go.

Re: A Canadian payroll dependency chart

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Why stop there, one monorepo could hold all the laws and receive PRs from the ppl, cutting down the middle man (politicians) leaving just the bureaucracy

This is a joke - I doubt it will work, fewer people to fight over interpretations :) I remember in my pursuit of learning about change management and digital transformation, someone tried to explain that too many bureaucracies ultimately have one goal - to ensure their survival at any cost. Maybe not so different than politicians in that way.

I would argue - keep the bureaucracy, work on the process, cut the middle men (politicians) and extract all the value you can from every non-zero sum game using technology to increase co-operation.

But yea, I was joking :)

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