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Re: We Could Fix Everything, We Just Don't

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I don't think he was blaming it on the two-party system. He was just explaining how the two-party system is one of those obviously broken mechanisms that effectively blocks against replacing it with one of the better alternatives. The general category of issues he highlights, should be well known to people who have lived in and observed our real world and society for a while. It is possible to produce USB-C cables th…

The US two party system isn't that obviously broken. Americans like to say it's broken, but they often aren't that familiar with the alternatives. You could have FPTP but with more than two parties, like the UK does. The downside of this is that the reason there are more than two major parties in the UK is that the parties are much more closed off to outside influence, and due to the presence of a major independence…

> The downside of this is that it guarantees that politicians can never actually do any of the things they campaigned on doing

That's a bold and total wrong claim.

> with the result that politicians tend not to take policy development seriously.

Ah that's why Europe is such a shithole and the US is an enlightened kingdom.

> Parties end up standing for extremely vague positions even during election campaign periods

That is just wrong. Parties often commit to specific things.

> Because the system is in some sense inherently unstable you have a lot of government collapses

That's why Angela Merkel was only in her position for 2 years.

> and the promised benefits of representing everyone's views better doesn't happen in reality.

Ill taking anyway, thanks very much.

> Instead what happens is that every party just ends up being at a different point on the 1D ideological spectrum

Again, that's just false. The represented views are way broader then what you get in other systems. Sure you don't have anarchist parties and Nazis but that's because those are minority views.

> left and "center" parties form coalitions against the right wing party to deny them any representation at all, even if it means the government becomes deadlocked and can't do anything.

That's a very, very broad generalization. And even if its the case, its not necessarily wrong. If 25% are far right wing and 75% are strongly against that far right wing, then that should be reflected in the government.

> Overall the US system isn't perfect, but it's also not the great weakness Americans like to claim it is. The two parties are sufficiently loose and broad tents that they shift with the political winds easily

Having 2 parties is the outcome of an election process that is fundamentally broken and sometimes its a legally enforced duopoly. To claim that isn't fundamentally broken in terms of translating broad popular views into government is simply wrong. The European system are also broken in various ways but they are far better.

Re: We Could Fix Everything, We Just Don't

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He doesn't even give an example of "ancient human tribes," but modern day nomads whose traditions have also developed over thousands of years. If ancient human tribes were so great at avoiding tragedy of the commons, I would be eating a mammoth steak right now.

The whole tragedy of the commons was literally made up by a very reactionary dude to justify fucking people over and justify enclosure and privatisation. Historically people have actually had rather complicated and at the same time very effective ways of sustainably managing the commons. It also happens that privatisation is the thing that makes the tragedy of the commons happen.

Both broad generalizations are wrong. Yes historically many societies have put in place various solutions to the tragity of the commons. But its also wrong that this was always the case and that all these solutions were great.

> It also happens that privatisation is the thing that makes the tragedy of the commons happen.

That is just fundamentally false. Privatization is one potential solution for a Tragedy of the commons. And of course privatization can be done in a fair or an unfair way. Just like every other potential solution.

I would suggest Elinor Ostrom work on the topic.

Re: We Could Fix Everything, We Just Don't

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> How could you prove to me I'm mistaken? By having a conversation with you. I'd point out your pride and self-satisfaction at being unselfish. If I knew of you more than that, I'd point out your selfish behavior. It's not hard, look at the clothes you wear, the car you drive, the cookie you ate, your grooming, and so on.

You wouldn't think much of my clothing. I've never owned a car. My grooming is minimal, my appearance just doesn't cross my mind. But I do like a nice cookie. I behave selfishly sometimes, no question. Does that really define the entirety of who I am? Why would it define me more than, say, when I feel bored, or when I behave generously, or when I do things on impulse? Afterall, I try to avoid behaving selfishly, so I…

Lets break it down, how much of your income do you spend on yourself, your family, friends and community you live in, how much to benefit society as whole where you see almost no benefit what so ever?

There is a reason economist use the term, self-interest, not selfishness. And it doesn't 'define you as a human' but it non the less true in the behavior patterns for 99.999999999% of humanity.

You simply biologically have to look out for your own survival, and in the few cases you don't, its because you put family or sometimes community above your own interest. But that still is self-interested.

Re: We Could Fix Everything, We Just Don't

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Uhm, no, they are not the "ruling body," I think you should revisit the fundamental facts of the situation and reevaluate your perspective. To be frank your comment has a really disturbing undertone of bloodlust. I don't know a nice way to say that. You should really reexamine what your attitudes are here and how you came to them, this is not an appropriate way to discuss the deaths of thousands of people.

Hamas is the ruling body in Gaza.

They're a fig leaf and asset [1] for those who use them as an excuse for collective punishment and genocide. With predictable and predicted [2] results.

[1] Smotrich: "In the context of delegitimization, Hamas is an asset and the authority is a burden" -- https://twitter.com/pgosh_MTP/status/1741169302051402195

[2] https://twitter.com/Rachael_Swindon/status/17417897483670733...

Re: We Could Fix Everything, We Just Don't

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Hamas is the ruling body in Gaza.

They're a fig leaf and asset [1] for those who use them as an excuse for collective punishment and genocide. With predictable and predicted [2] results. [1] Smotrich: "In the context of delegitimization, Hamas is an asset and the authority is a burden" -- https://twitter.com/pgosh_MTP/status/1741169302051402195 [2] https://twitter.com/Rachael_Swindon/status/17417897483670733...

They are the governing body of Gaza, and have been since 2006.

Re: We Could Fix Everything, We Just Don't

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

They're a fig leaf and asset [1] for those who use them as an excuse for collective punishment and genocide. With predictable and predicted [2] results. [1] Smotrich: "In the context of delegitimization, Hamas is an asset and the authority is a burden" -- https://twitter.com/pgosh_MTP/status/1741169302051402195 [2] https://twitter.com/Rachael_Swindon/status/17417897483670733...

They are the governing body of Gaza, and have been since 2006.

That's great. The claim was "the reason why such an attack happened is because the people who did the attack were the ruling government body of 2 million people for almost 2 decades". And that's transparent nonsense in service of the colonialists committing genocide right now. Do you disagree?

Re: We Could Fix Everything, We Just Don't

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They are the governing body of Gaza, and have been since 2006.

That's great. The claim was "the reason why such an attack happened is because the people who did the attack were the ruling government body of 2 million people for almost 2 decades". And that's transparent nonsense in service of the colonialists committing genocide right now. Do you disagree?

My claim was that Hamas is the ruling body in Gaza, which is a simple fact. It responded to a comment saying that Hamas was not the ruling body in Gaza. That comment was false. Your political advocacy isn't relevant to what I'm saying.

Re: We Could Fix Everything, We Just Don't

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That's great. The claim was "the reason why such an attack happened is because the people who did the attack were the ruling government body of 2 million people for almost 2 decades". And that's transparent nonsense in service of the colonialists committing genocide right now. Do you disagree?

My claim was that Hamas is the ruling body in Gaza, which is a simple fact. It responded to a comment saying that Hamas was not the ruling body in Gaza. That comment was false. Your political advocacy isn't relevant to what I'm saying.

Got it.

Re: We Could Fix Everything, We Just Don't

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Because licensing is working so well in other disciplines? Magic fairy dust! Look at some civil engineering disasters: licensing doesn't prevent disasters.

> Look at some civil engineering disasters: licensing doesn't prevent disasters. I'd suggest that you are judging the effectiveness on the wrong criteria here. It's impossible to foresee all distasters - the goal is to enact mechanisms to mitigate the human cost of distasters, and even more importantly, prevent the second and third occurrences of the same distaster... (which we seem decently good at)

Licensing doesn't prevent similar disasters from happening. Licensing is simply too low-level to prevent problems. Licensing is a mechanism to scapegoat individual engineers. It doesn't fix issues with systems. And the penalty of losing a license is simply too cheap compared against the cost of major accidents.

Engineering projects are usually performed by businesses, often across jurisdictional boundaries. Licensing is usually a monopoly within a jurisdiction.

Avoiding accidents requires solutions at the level of a business activity: and it needs to cover all the aspects of the activity (not just the coalface of engineering, but the management and sales and every other aspect that can affect safety).

If software engineering requires licenses then open source cannot be used. Good luck starting from scratch and introducing other risks of proprietary solutions!

An example: a Lambourghini tractor has a fault in the steering software that causes the tractor to overturn and kills a farmer in Nabraska. How do you expect software engineering licensing to prevent that?

Re: We Could Fix Everything, We Just Don't

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how did hackernews brew so many well compensated communists.

Because, unlike what classical-liberal economic theory stipulates, human beings aren't inherently selfish. People can succeed under a system and still acknowledge it is a bad one for a big part of the population.

but why always communism? Let's agree today's system is bad. What system are we in? Certainly not capitalist. ~ 50% of GDP goes to the government. That's closer to socialist.

Why love communism so much? We're practically communist already. Why not blame that?

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