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And why is that?
Presumably because the underlying cause of suicidal desires can be temporary, and people who end up not following through may later be glad they didn't.
'Suicide pod' is completely legal and approved for use in Switzerland
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#42Earlier quoted context omitted.
I'm curious to learn more. Do you have any references re. Canada?
I'm not going to link to specific articles or examples because people will meticulously comb the ones I choose to dismiss them individually, when the real issue is about systems and incentives on a broader scale. The program is called "medical assistance in dying" commonly referred to as MAID. A lot has been written about it the last few years. As you look, I highly recommend prioritizing the words of disabled and ch…
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#43If you're worried about climate change you should be all for this. Suicide is the most carbon-negative thing you can do! Well, other than mass murder, I suppose.
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#44Suicide should NOT be as stigmatized as it currently is in modern society. Everyone was brought into this world without their permission, they should be able to leave it in a safe and reliable way too.
The idea of "brought into the world" somehow establishes that we were somewhere before. What would that be?
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More realistically chronically ill, mentally ill, and disabled people will be increasingly pressured into this "alternative" by the medical and welfare systems, as is already happening in canada. Exactly as predicted years ago by disabled people, exactly as dismissed then as a slippery slope. It's not a fallacy when there's prior art!
I'm curious to learn more. Do you have any references re. Canada?
> In one recording obtained by the AP, the hospital's director of ethics told Foley that for him to remain in the hospital, it would cost "north of $1,500 a day." Foley replied that mentioning fees felt like coercion and asked what plan there was for his long-term care.
> "Roger, this is not my show," the ethicist responded. "My piece of this was to talk to you, (to see) if you had an interest in assisted dying."
> Foley said he had never previously mentioned euthanasia. The hospital says there is no prohibition on staff raising the issue.
Canada, where the healthcare is “free”, but if you cost too much they’ll encourage you to kill yourself.
https://reason.com/2022/09/07/some-canadian-health-care-pati...
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#47Suicide should NOT be as stigmatized as it currently is in modern society. Everyone was brought into this world without their permission, they should be able to leave it in a safe and reliable way too.
The idea of "brought into the world" somehow establishes that we were somewhere before. What would that be?
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#48Suicide should NOT be as stigmatized as it currently is in modern society. Everyone was brought into this world without their permission, they should be able to leave it in a safe and reliable way too.
That's one view. The Hindu view is that we all chose to be born and most suicide has very negative consequences. The one exception is Prayopavesa.
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#49Suicide should NOT be as stigmatized as it currently is in modern society. Everyone was brought into this world without their permission, they should be able to leave it in a safe and reliable way too.
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#50I think it’s funny that this page has a “If you or someone you know is struggling or in mental health crisis …” blurb at the bottom. This is like Bud Light saying “please drink responsibly”. The entire point of this invention seems to be to lower the barrier to entry to suicide, so a statement discouraging suicide seems to me a strange thing to follow with.