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Homicides in U.S. set to drop by record numbers this year

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> Other forms of violent crime — rape, aggravated assault and robbery — are set to see a decline as well, according to preliminary quarterly data published by the FBI earlier this month.

Right there in the article.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Speaking as someone who has lived in the downtown area of a dense US city for the past 8 years, US crime stats and perception are weird. Yes I live in a neighborhood with high crime stats. Even relatively high violent crime stats. But it feels pretty safe regardless. Random violent crime is extremely rare. Mostly what you get are violent disputes between people who know each other. You can literally walk by a drug de…

It's incredibly hard to explain this disconnect to people who haven't lived in high-poverty/high-crime/dense places. Chicago, even the south side, never felt dangerous to me while living there. But here in Texas, people seem to think it's some wild west of violence every day.

Just as there are people who think that Portland (and Seattle) are close to some post apocalyptic wasteland after the BLM protests a few years ago.

I've heard non-hyperbolic claims that BLM torched "entire city blocks".

Re: Homicides in U.S. set to drop by record numbers this year

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

The point is that homicides are declining in the US. Pointing to hot spots and saying otherwise is like saying climate change doesn't exist because some city set a record low temperature.

It isn’t “pointing to hotspots.” Homicides spiked during Covid and still haven’t returned to those previous levels. Pointing to an overall slight dip while places like Seattle are at 30 year highs seems extremely dishonest.

Having places at 30 year highs is irrelevant to measure the overall trend--- when the US overall is 40% below the peak in the last 30 years.

We're not quite as good as the 2014 low, but we've returned to the 5-6 per 100k band that we've spent the majority of the last 30 years in (9 years above, many far above; 5 years somewhat below).

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It's still above 2019 levels, looks like it just dropped from the pandemic spike. Autotheft and carjackings are on the rise, its pretty terrible in my area with boys and girl as young as 12 and 13 stealing cars for joyrides because they are being let go after being caught, resulting in fatalities in some cases. This was my reply with examples and sources to someone saying crimes weren't for fun. https://news.ycombina…

TikTok + lazy manufacturers. KIA & Hundai knew about the issue well in advance and made the business decision not to react and fix it. Easiest car to steal in a few generations. People that is

It isn't the car manufacturers job to stop kids from being criminals.

TikTok you are right on the money though. Greatest CCP psyweapon ever invented.

Re: Homicides in U.S. set to drop by record numbers this year

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> Why it matters: The findings appear to be at odds with Americans' perception of crime both in their communities and in the rest of the country. Well, there are other crimes than murder?

The other crimes have been declining dramatically for decades, too. American perception of crime doesn't match the reality; it's a 24/7 cable news phenomenon. https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2020/11/20/facts-abo...

Crimes had been declining for decades. The last couple years have had pretty significant increases, and violent crime in general is the highest it's been in ten years, for instance: https://ncvs.bjs.ojp.gov/quick-graphics

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> Why it matters: The findings appear to be at odds with Americans' perception of crime both in their communities and in the rest of the country. Well, there are other crimes than murder?

Speaking as someone who has lived in the downtown area of a dense US city for the past 8 years, US crime stats and perception are weird. Yes I live in a neighborhood with high crime stats. Even relatively high violent crime stats. But it feels pretty safe regardless. Random violent crime is extremely rare. Mostly what you get are violent disputes between people who know each other. You can literally walk by a drug de…

Do you think it's safe to raise a family where drug deals are happening out in the open?

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This certainly demonstrates how statistics can be misleading, or how averages can hide problems: https://komonews.com/news/local/seattle-police-chief-adrian-... >> "We are doing everything we can to recover guns, reduce this level of violence," Diaz told KOMO News in an interview Thursday. That number keeps rising and it's the highest since Seattle reported 71 homicides in 1994. >> "Homelessness has been a huge drive…

The point is that homicides are declining in the US. Pointing to hot spots and saying otherwise is like saying climate change doesn't exist because some city set a record low temperature.

Declining compared to pandemic levels. Still astronomically high compared to the late 90s.

Re: Homicides in U.S. set to drop by record numbers this year

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> Why it matters: The findings appear to be at odds with Americans' perception of crime both in their communities and in the rest of the country. Well, there are other crimes than murder?

Speaking as someone who has lived in the downtown area of a dense US city for the past 8 years, US crime stats and perception are weird. Yes I live in a neighborhood with high crime stats. Even relatively high violent crime stats. But it feels pretty safe regardless. Random violent crime is extremely rare. Mostly what you get are violent disputes between people who know each other. You can literally walk by a drug de…

> But it feels pretty safe regardless.

"feels" is such a terrible metric for safety. I guess that's part of the point.

Measuring one's risk of low probability events based on personal experience is inherently flawed.

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