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Re: Disney, Warner, Comcast, and Paramount are contemplating cuts, possible mergers

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Post by JKCalhoun »

londons_explore wrote: post #30
JKCalhoun wrote: post #21

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Why would you feel the need to have AI "cleanse" older shows? Otherwise, I agree there is a rich history of films.

It really depends what the watcher desires... A lot of audiences will say "ewwe, I couldn't possibly let my children watch that, there are homophobic slurs in it". Or parts are simply outdated and won't be understood by viewers - like a key element of a plot being that someone erased an answerphone tape - perhaps in todays world you'd replace that with messages showing one tick only...

My kids kind of enjoy older films where, for example, a person is on a land-line telephone and someone in another room picks up the receiver of a phone on the same line to listen in. They had no idea.

It's educational, historic.

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Post by alephnerd »

matthewdgreen wrote: post #91
HDThoreaun wrote: post #44

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Netflix’s foreign content is quite good. Especially the Korean stuff is pretty high quality and way cheaper to produce, seems like a good idea to me.

The content quality is excellent, but the English-language voice acting is horrible.

Because it's an afterthought.

Netflix added KDramas in order to help it pivot into the Asian market. Most viewers will be watching the shows via subtitles.

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Post by cycrutchfield »

matthewdgreen wrote: post #91
HDThoreaun wrote: post #44

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Netflix’s foreign content is quite good. Especially the Korean stuff is pretty high quality and way cheaper to produce, seems like a good idea to me.

The content quality is excellent, but the English-language voice acting is horrible.

Use subtitles?

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Post by paxys »

sethd wrote: post #99
whstl wrote: post #98

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Is it really the default? My "default language" isn't english but don't remember seeing a dubbed show.

Unfortunately it is. If you want to listen to the original source audio with subtitles, you have to change these settings each time. It’s super annoying. (Unless something changed recently)

No you don't. I set one show to play with original audio years ago and since then all of them have followed that setting.

Re: Disney, Warner, Comcast, and Paramount are contemplating cuts, possible mergers

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Post by sethd »

matthewdgreen wrote: post #91
HDThoreaun wrote: post #44

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Netflix’s foreign content is quite good. Especially the Korean stuff is pretty high quality and way cheaper to produce, seems like a good idea to me.

The content quality is excellent, but the English-language voice acting is horrible.

On top of that, the English subtitles don’t match up with the English voiceovers.

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Post by steveBK123 »

fzeroracer wrote: post #86
tom_walters wrote: post #29

I think this primarily comes down to a fundamental misunderstanding of where the value in streaming services lies from the perspective of old world media giants. The majority of people who buy streaming, I suspect, are interested mainly in the conveyor belt of diverse and engaging content. Sure I whack an episode of Rick and Morty on via Netflix once a month, but 90% of viewing is of new serialized content. Disney na…

Ultimately yeah, it's this. Netflix wins because it understands hanging your hat on one series or IP is business suicide. They churn out a bunch of shows, from higher budget big IPs to a bunch of lower budget series and animations. David Zaslav and other media execs wanted to try and force the old media philosophy in the streaming environment, which also meant executing a bunch of mid-budget and lower-budget series t…

Yes because running NFLX, by comparison, is probably not as "fun" of a job as running a traditional media org. Imagine being in charge of IP you watched as a kid, mingling with famous actors & directors .. it's very sexy. It's a ticket to a different social life. A lot of them are larger than life personalities than come from media families.

Netflix by comparison is like running any other FAANG. Pays well, but you can live a pretty rich-but-anonymous life still. I had to look up who was running NFLX these days, and one of the co-CEOs doesn't even have a picture on his Wiki page.

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Post by edgyquant »

bluepizza wrote: post #77
graphe wrote: post #37

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> Disney naively thought they could just serve up old classics while wringing the life out of Marvel and Star Wars IP and people would happily continue to pay. Wringing the life is a pretty mean way to put it. They tried to use the IP to make money. Their movies and shows sound like propaganda with Twitter quips and they aren't good. Marvel and star wars peaked under Disney the same way that Apple peaked from Tim Coo…

> Wringing the life is a pretty mean way to put it. Corporations don't have feelings. It is okay to be mean to multi billion dollar corporations.

Corporations are made up of people and groups of people do very much have feelings.

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Post by edgyquant »

kranke155 wrote: post #56
graphe wrote: post #37

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> Disney naively thought they could just serve up old classics while wringing the life out of Marvel and Star Wars IP and people would happily continue to pay. Wringing the life is a pretty mean way to put it. They tried to use the IP to make money. Their movies and shows sound like propaganda with Twitter quips and they aren't good. Marvel and star wars peaked under Disney the same way that Apple peaked from Tim Coo…

Marvel and Star Wars are managed in radically different ways, by completely different "PM"s.

Weird, I couldn’t tell at all since they both have converged on the exact same format.

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Post by drewcoo »

oblio wrote: post #92
londons_explore wrote: post #11

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I have to wonder why consumers so desire new content. Old films and TV shows have much the same entertainment value, and are vastly cheaper to stick through some AI to turn to HD and strip out the no-longer-politically-acceptable jokes. There is also a wealth of content from other countries and languages, which could be translated with a little AI assistance to do lip sync etc. With far more content than anyone could…

> I have to wonder why consumers so desire new content. After watching kids grow, it struck me. That's how we learn. New stuff = different stuff = learning. My kids would look at the floor for a bit as babies, it would be interesting. After a while, watching the same "old" tiles would become boring, not much to learn from there (color, hardness, temperature, grip, etc). So they'd start looking for lint, pebbles, bits…

"New" to your kids was always something pre-existing, though.

"New content" is something that did not exist before.

I'm willing to bet that any given adult has a huge trove of extant material that would be interesting if they could only discover it. But the cult of the new opposes that.

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Post by dpflan »

dom96 wrote: post #108
tom_walters wrote: post #29

I think this primarily comes down to a fundamental misunderstanding of where the value in streaming services lies from the perspective of old world media giants. The majority of people who buy streaming, I suspect, are interested mainly in the conveyor belt of diverse and engaging content. Sure I whack an episode of Rick and Morty on via Netflix once a month, but 90% of viewing is of new serialized content. Disney na…

> The majority of people who buy streaming, I suspect, are interested mainly in the conveyor belt of diverse and engaging content. I'd love to see this backed up by sources. I for one recall seeing streaming stats from Disney+ and old series like X Files are up there as some of the most streamed. Anecdotally, I watch and rewatch a lot of old series. Like I'm rewatching Breaking Bad on Netflix right now.

It's definitely relative to some degree, X-Files is new content to people of a certain age.
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