Earlier quoted context omitted.
really, how much do large companies pay per patent? any data points?
I've seen about $5k in the past. But I haven't worked at a large company for a while.
Are those lawyer fees or USPTO fees?
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To enter a country as a non-citizen is a privilege, that a country has the right to deny for any reason or none. Just as you can deny others entry into your own home or private property, without needing to give any justification. If the border agents are not applying their own stated rules consistently or transparently then that is wrong, but you are not entitled to anything just because you put in "time and effort".
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#413Earlier quoted context omitted.
Pretty much every advanced economy is seeing stagnant population growth. Integrating immigrants is one of our most important skills and we need to keep practicing it.
Look how integration of migrants looks like in western Europe. Worshipers of economic growth don't see all the social issues mass scale immigration brings.
The funny/sad thing is that western Europe didn't even get the promised economic growth.
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#414[flagged]
To enter a country as a non-citizen is a privilege, that a country has the right to deny for any reason or none. Just as you can deny others entry into your own home or private property, without needing to give any justification. If the border agents are not applying their own stated rules consistently or transparently then that is wrong, but you are not entitled to anything just because you put in "time and effort".
In the U.S. being a CBP is not well regarded and is generally a stepping stone for other federal law enforcement agencies due to the pension system. The guys checking passports are treated like children, I’m sure misuses of privilege can be escalated to a supervisor or complaints can be filed with the OIG or HSI even.
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#415Earlier quoted context omitted.
> point based system Today if you're an illegal migrant and claim asylum, you get +inf points. If you're born in certain countries with long wait time, you get -inf points. Clearly the system today is working within your definition.
> If you're born in certain countries with long wait time, you get -inf points. Re-read the parent comment again. They say "point-based system [...] regardless of national origin", which implies that the origin country wouldn't have any effect aka point-value (neither negative nor positive) attached to it. > if you're an illegal migrant and claim asylum, you get +inf points Bringing up the asylum visa category makes…
Ok, so you want to make a system that does not include some otherwise very popular criteria to the citizens of the host nation? Because... it benefits you?
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#416Expect further downward pressure on US tech salaries.
People in tech have blinders are. We're already in tech, so we don't see the repercussions. Entry level jobs are almost non-existent, they're all going overseas and to indentured servants.
> indentured servants
Could you explain what you mean?
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#417I'm a little surprised to see a number of anti-immigraiton comments on this thread, some of which you could describe as reactionary. The US is and always has been a country of immigrants. Your idea of who is and isn't an immigrant is simply a question of what time window you choose. In 1800, the US had a population of ~2 million. by 1900 it was ~50 million. You want to guess how itt got that way? Let's dispense of th…
> The US is and always has been a country of immigrants Settlers founding new places are different from immigrants. The US was created by British settlers. Its language, laws, political system, and to a great extent its culture are British. If you look at various statistics, the Anglo countries share strong commonalities, even though people of British descent are now a distinct minority in the US (while being a major…
> If you look at various statistics, the Anglo countries share strong commonalities, even though people of British descent are now a distinct minority in the US (while being a majority in Britain, Canada, and Australia).
The preferred term for Australia's historical ethnic majority is "Anglo-Celtic" not "British"; calling it "British" can be seen as ignoring Irish-Australians.
One big difference between the Australia and the US - there was a significant minority of Irish Catholics in Australia from the very beginnings of British settlement. Although they did experience some discrimination, it was a lot less than in the US, so they integrated more quickly and easily into the establishment. People thought it was a big deal when a Catholic of Irish descent was elected US President in 1961; Australia had its first Catholic and first Irish-descended Prime Minister over 30 years earlier, and it was an event which attracted far less notice.
> Over time, other people moved in. Those were immigrants. But for a long time it wasn’t immigration as we know it today. Many of them created greenfield communities, settling large swaths of the Midwest, etc. Those communities were pockets of Germans, etc., in a country that was still distinctly British.
You seem to be drawing a "settler"-vs-"immigrant" distinction based on majority-vs-minority ethnicity. From my perspective, that's a rather idiosyncratic usage. To me, an immigrant is an immigrant, regardless of their ethnic background. A "settler" is either an old-fashioned synonym for "immigrant", or else a term for those immigrants who "created greenfield communities".
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#418Earlier quoted context omitted.
People in tech have blinders are. We're already in tech, so we don't see the repercussions. Entry level jobs are almost non-existent, they're all going overseas and to indentured servants.
> indentured servants Could you explain what you mean?
Probably means H1B workers. Hopefully not, because that's a pretty ugly way to call them.
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#419Earlier quoted context omitted.
I was going to say something similar. I don't believe in points any more. It just reproduces the class prejudices of overeducated people. The US has an abundance of "highly skilled" FAANG workers. It has a shortage of construction workers, plumbers, and electricians. The one "high skill" (really high class ) industry where I'd make an exception is medicine, because there are shortages there. But FAANG stuff? No, thes…
One can just adjust the points towards what you need, like Australia does. Me and then-wife applied about 15 years ago - she studied at the American school in Milan, graduated in the UK, and got a master and PhD in computational chemistry. I'd been living in the UK for a decade, working in IT. They said thanks but no thanks, Melbourne doesn't need you - whereas tradesmen, plumbers, miners etc have no problem whatsoev…
>They said thanks but no thanks, Melbourne doesn't need you - whereas tradesmen, plumbers, miners etc have no problem whatsoever moving there, year after year.
Well, tradesmen build houses, schools, and hospitals people and a growing society need. There's only so much demand and value for society that (non-SV) programmers add. You could survive in a world with only tradesmen and farmers, but not so much with only JS coders.
Programmers are valued in places like the US because US is the home to big-tech, an industry generating trillions in revenue for the US, but the US is the global outlier here. In other places of the world that don't have big-tech, programmers have much less value to society.
South Park also did an episode on this.
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#420Earlier quoted context omitted.
Rather than doubling the cost a company has to pay for a foreign employee, which inevitably pushes down wages for high-end talent, why not just rank applicants based on how much they’re actually paid? If an employee is recruited at $250k, they clearly have skills the market values.
If you mean the existing H-1B lottery, see sibling comment linking the Forbes article which says "However, attorneys say attempting to reorder the H-1B lottery from highest to lowest salary by regulation, as the administration has discussed, would be unlikely to survive a legal challenge."
There’s nothing in the constitution preventing legislators from altering H-1B regulations that I know of. What kind of legal challenge are you referring to, exactly?