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I (while not living in Switzerland) am one of those people. I don't want to eat salt with iodine. I don't like the taste. Too metallic, like in baking powder with aluminum.
The article mentions iodine is apparently not changing the taste of salt in blind tasting. Do you have information to the contrary?
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> I think, outside Europe, this afflicted lots of places away from the coast, right? Like the middle part of the US. That's exactly where it afflicted people in europe as well, mountainous regions tend to be inlands, and from their remoteness don't have the opportunity for incidental iodine through trade, so they worsen the odds, but historically distance from the sea (and thus lack of sea products) has absolutely be…
intake from air is considered insignificant But, intake from air is how the soil & plants get it, over long time scales… It’s always possible that a simple indirect selection is at play, e.g. people who simply love the sea breeze (for no particular reason) are more successful because they get enough iodine. Then, the next generation is more likely to love the sea breeze.
Plants get it from the soil, onto which the iodine gets deposited. There is no breathing apparatus involved.
> It’s always possible that a simple indirect selection is at play, e.g. people who simply love the sea breeze (for no particular reason) are more successful because they get enough iodine.
What part of “intake from air is considered insignificant“ did you fail to understand? You don’t breathe in iodine, it’s been observed to not be a thing.
In India iodized salt is common these days, in such table salts as Tata Salt. Salt started being iodized only around 15 or so years back, IIRC.
Israel notably iodizes very little of its salt and it’s hard to find. Combined with desalinated water consumption, their iodine deficiency rates are through the roof. https://www.haaretz.com/science-and-health/2017-03-27/ty-art... https://ijhpr.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s13584-020-...
My father told me that goitre's were quite common when he was growing up as a boy in Detroit in the 1920's. In my generation it was totally unknown. Yet I remember people affected by polio as a boy quite well. But I bet that millennials have no personal experience with it at all. Each generation moves forward and I can only hope there is a day when no one has any first hand experience with either cancer or Alzheimer'…
Apparently Michigan helped normalize the ionization of salt in the US: https://www.michiganradio.org/show/stateside/2022-05-12/once...
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In my family there is definitely memory of this . My grandmothers generation has seen the old folks with the enlarged neck
I remember it from my grand-grandparents. It wasn't common-common like in late 19th century Switzerland, but there was at least one case close enough to come across yourself.
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> But I bet that millennials have no personal experience with it at all. Mass vaccination started in the late 50s and especially early 60s (with Sabin’s oral vaccine). Millennials start in 1981, so they would / could well have known affected adults.
Considering current antivax movement, it is not unusual for people to get sick with polio, even some got paralyzed. It is hard to understand for me how people can intentionally increase risks of deadly diseases for their children.
I really hope we find a way out of this before to long.
In the end (polio) vaccines work and praying/magic doesn't, so I'm positive we will be able to learn the same lessons our ancestors did.
A really pleasant to read story. It's funny because I live in Switzerland and some of my friends debate the "ioded salt", and prefer to consume "natural salt" without the additives. Funny how history can repeat itself. I'm always impressed with all these doctors that would question the approach, try new protocols, and end up by finding a cure
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Most common one used here is Sodium Ferrocyanide : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sodium_ferrocyanide Also used as a coating in welding among other things. And like other commentor said, a nephew of cyanide. Now Im sure most of us will be fine, but I prefer not to eat that a few times a day. If you think that makes me foolish, be my guest. It's also not needed, there are plenty of other sources of Iodine, and sea salt…
You can actually consume a _lot_ of cyanide without negative consequences, your body can detoxify it easily in small quantities. You can dissolve a lethal dose of cyanide in a bottle of water, and you'll be fine if you drink it in small sips over the course of a day. Cyanide is so toxic because it has a high affinity for iron ions, so it deactivates iron-containing enzymes that are crucial for respiration. But in fer…
We simply don't know, and haven't research the longterm effect of small dosis on a daily intake. Especially combined with other conservatives & chemical additives in small dosis.
You can't deny there are some major diseases in the modern world on a rise and we have no idea why.
Yet here everyone always so sure that everything we're doing with food additives, pesticides and chemical processing is super safe.
There's just no need to eat these things, just eat normal food.
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Can I get some benefits of doubt please? :D I don't question the initiative. The article just read like it was some strange illness that affected Switzers around a certain time.
The article mentions comments from the 19th century about the same subject. I think, that Switzerland, and especially those remote mountain regions, stayed more isolated than similar regions in France or Austria well into the early 20th century, making the issue stand out more in comparison.
Austria I don't know. Many Austrian had the reverse problem with too much iodin and basedov eyes.
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> But I bet that millennials have no personal experience with it at all. Mass vaccination started in the late 50s and especially early 60s (with Sabin’s oral vaccine). Millennials start in 1981, so they would / could well have known affected adults.
Considering current antivax movement, it is not unusual for people to get sick with polio, even some got paralyzed. It is hard to understand for me how people can intentionally increase risks of deadly diseases for their children.
Are you assuming everyone who was not interested in the COVID vaccine just plain doesn’t believe in vaccines?