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The curse of the goitre in Switzerland

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Re: The curse of the goitre in Switzerland

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I (while not living in Switzerland) am one of those people. I don't want to eat salt with iodine. I don't like the taste. Too metallic, like in baking powder with aluminum.

The article mentions iodine is apparently not changing the taste of salt in blind tasting. Do you have information to the contrary?

I don't. Personally I can taste the metallic taste. But then again, so can I after using baking powder. Maybe I'm more sensitive to it?

Re: The curse of the goitre in Switzerland

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Unclear but Germany is monitoring iodine intake and insufficiency is on the rise. https://www.klartext-nahrungsergaenzung.de/wissen/lebensmitt...

Iodized salt use is decreasing in the US as well. I take a lot of supplements and vitamins and I rarely see iodine as an ingredient so I have placed iodized salt next to my sea salt as I know I do not get enough iodine rich foods in my diet. It's easy to forget about and while I may take things like St Johns and Turmeric daily, I can live without them, iodine not so much.

Morton makes an iodized sea salt

Re: The curse of the goitre in Switzerland

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You hate sand, huh.

Most common one used here is Sodium Ferrocyanide : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sodium_ferrocyanide Also used as a coating in welding among other things. And like other commentor said, a nephew of cyanide. Now Im sure most of us will be fine, but I prefer not to eat that a few times a day. If you think that makes me foolish, be my guest. It's also not needed, there are plenty of other sources of Iodine, and sea salt…

You can actually consume a _lot_ of cyanide without negative consequences, your body can detoxify it easily in small quantities. You can dissolve a lethal dose of cyanide in a bottle of water, and you'll be fine if you drink it in small sips over the course of a day.

Cyanide is so toxic because it has a high affinity for iron ions, so it deactivates iron-containing enzymes that are crucial for respiration. But in ferrocyanide it is _already_ combined with iron.

Ferrocyanide compounds like Prussian blue are even sometimes used as an antidotes for heavy metal poisoning.

Re: The curse of the goitre in Switzerland

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But it's not the case that "T3 is the active form" as you'll read in the literature, it's that the removed iodine is the active or useful thing. Supplementation with T3 yields a rapid correction in bradycardia and hypothermia caused by hypothyroidism. We treat with T4 because it has a longer physiological halflife and thus yields more consistent serum levels; but the evidence is incredibly clear that it's T3 which is…

How does the T3 produce the result? Is it possible that conversion to T2 - liberation of iodine - is what does it? I have not head of this condition so I'll do some reading. Also, does simple iodine supplementation help?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thyroid_hormone_receptor

https://www.thyroidmanager.org/chapter/cellular-action-of-th...

T3 hormone binds to thyroid hormone receptors in the cell's nucleus, which regulates gene expression. These TH receptors are present all over the place; thyroid hormone has wide ranging effects on the body.

Re: The curse of the goitre in Switzerland

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I take Lugol's iodine almost everyday (with Selenium). It dramatically upgraded my life. The first week could be wild (fever is expected) but people should know how this cheap supplement can help them.

Lugol's iodine is usually not recommended because a single drop has dozens of times the daily recommended dose of iodine. That can cause bad side effects (as discussed in the article)

Re: The curse of the goitre in Switzerland

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Goitre and cretinism was present in French Alps too.

Hence the insult "crétin des Alpes".

For many, the meaning has been lost, and it became a generic term to designate an idiot. Despite having heard and even used the expression many times, I think the popular character "Captain Haddock" and his expletives from the "Tintin" comics made it popular. Yet, I only came to the true meaning very recently.

Re: The curse of the goitre in Switzerland

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The article mentions iodine is apparently not changing the taste of salt in blind tasting. Do you have information to the contrary?

I don't. Personally I can taste the metallic taste. But then again, so can I after using baking powder. Maybe I'm more sensitive to it?

You should conduct a blind test! (If you haven't already). Conducting blind tests on my perceptual preferences has been incredibly eye opening. It's especially illuminating for cooking with spices. Trying to identify spices by taste is something i never though to do but really helped me elevate my cooking from, "i guess we'll try this", to intentionally placing and making informed decisions. I bet the same thing could be done with regular salt and iodized salt. Maybe a couple tests, straight, in water, baked in a cookie, put on an hors d'ouvres (who really knows how to spell that) or something. Could be fun!
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