The curse of the goitre in Switzerland

Post by [deleted] » Wed, Dec 27, 2023, 9:05 PM UTC

mytailorisrich wrote: post #11

Faaak wrote: post #2

A really pleasant to read story. It's funny because I live in Switzerland and some of my friends debate the "ioded salt", and prefer to consume "natural salt" without the additives. Funny how history can repeat itself. I'm always impressed with all these doctors that would question the approach, try new protocols, and end up by finding a cure

With the complex supply chains and processed/ready-made food we have nowadays I am wondering how much iodine makes its way into the diet of the Swiss today even without ioded table salt. I suspect that one of the issues was that most/all food used to be sourced locally, especially eggs and milk, which are good sources of iodine, with seafood probably mostly absent from the Swiss diet. Edit: apparently nowadays, and t…

Post by ajuc » Wed, Dec 27, 2023, 9:10 PM UTC

jongjong wrote: post #115

ajuc wrote: post #17

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There are health resorts here in Poland where the whole reason is for them to exist in these particular places is because air there has a lot of iodine and other minerals from sea salt. I've been to one in Kołobrzeg as a child because of my asthma. There are also inland health resorts where they build huge salt evaporation walls so that people don't have to drive all the way to the sea to breath sea air- for example…

Sounds similar to many parts of eastern Europe and Russia. People go to health retreats to drink water from specific natural springs that are high in minerals.

Post by mytailorisrich » Wed, Dec 27, 2023, 9:15 PM UTC

eyphka wrote: post #148

mytailorisrich wrote: post #91

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Isn't that what the whole article is about? But the point is that Switzerland's environment is especially poor in iodine hence the specific health problems it used to have, and which were much less serious in neighbouring countries.

While the cases were high in switzerland, they were not unique. Link to an academic article discussing how the USA is now in the dangerzone of iodine deficiency. https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s12011-018-1606-5#... .

Post by naremu » Wed, Dec 27, 2023, 9:15 PM UTC

colechristensen wrote: post #108

kergonath wrote: post #90

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Pretty much the same as against fluorine in water in the States: it’s unnatural/a globalist conspiracy/killing our traditional way of life/a plot to subdue the people for . There is no scientifically sound reason against it.

There is scientific reason against it, just not matching many of the conspiracy nuts’ rhetoric. Most of Western Europe bans fluoridation. It can make your bones a little less elastic and a little more brittle, and there are a few other known or potential negative effects. There are also just better ways to prevent cavities.

Post by ufo » Wed, Dec 27, 2023, 9:18 PM UTC

wahern wrote: post #143

analog31 wrote: post #121

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They probably get plenty of iodine from packaged food since it doesn't all come from the same region any more.

The salt used in processed and prepared foods usually isn't iodized, contributing to declining iodine intake given the increasing consumption of these foods.