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Re: Moderna's mRNA cancer vaccine works better than thought

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Post by lawlessone »

squarefoot wrote: post #2

If this turns out to work as promised, in a idealistic universe, Moderna gets a big influx of money from all countries in the world and they immediately publish details and surrender any patent allowing the treatment to be produced worldwide and be affordable for everyone.

It's not a general vaccine , but a tailored one aimed at people being treated for cancers that have a high risk of it coming back. So it's not something that can just be handed out to everyone.

I agree though if a general vaccine is created.

I'm really looking forward to a future where this and heart disease or just merely annoying.

Re: Moderna's mRNA cancer vaccine works better than thought

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Post by amelius »

dragonelite wrote: post #8
squarefoot wrote: post #2

If this turns out to work as promised, in a idealistic universe, Moderna gets a big influx of money from all countries in the world and they immediately publish details and surrender any patent allowing the treatment to be produced worldwide and be affordable for everyone.

We have seen how that went during covid, so dont i wouldn't hold your breath on it. The only hope is competition from China and others initiating a race to the bottom.

Maybe in 30 years when all the patents have expired.

Re: Moderna's mRNA cancer vaccine works better than thought

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Post by bawolff »

dragonelite wrote: post #8
squarefoot wrote: post #2

If this turns out to work as promised, in a idealistic universe, Moderna gets a big influx of money from all countries in the world and they immediately publish details and surrender any patent allowing the treatment to be produced worldwide and be affordable for everyone.

We have seen how that went during covid, so dont i wouldn't hold your breath on it. The only hope is competition from China and others initiating a race to the bottom.

I mean, it seemed like it worked pretty well with covid. Vaccine was produced very quickly, and in most countries was free.

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Post by JumpCrisscross »

squarefoot wrote: post #2

If this turns out to work as promised, in a idealistic universe, Moderna gets a big influx of money from all countries in the world and they immediately publish details and surrender any patent allowing the treatment to be produced worldwide and be affordable for everyone.

> a big influx of money from all countries

We don’t know how valuable this tech is. It could be worth trillions. It could be niche. Risk sharing, not cost, is the currency of deal making.

> immediately publish details and surrender any patent

mRNA vaccine production methods are tough, e.g. Moderna’s encapsulation technology. Add to that the personalisation required for these treatments, and we’re still far from economies of scale.

Re: Moderna's mRNA cancer vaccine works better than thought

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Post by [deleted] »

bluGill wrote: post #5
pclmulqdq wrote: post #3

Past mRNA cancer vaccines haven't failed to get through trials because of ineffectiveness. They failed clinical trials in the 2000s and 2010s due to their side effects being too bad. The side effects of mRNA vaccines are getting less and less severe over the years, but the proof of the pudding will come in phase III for this vaccine, as with all the other ones.

The side effects of most cancer treatments are aweful. How do they compare?

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Re: Moderna's mRNA cancer vaccine works better than thought

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Post by lawlessone »

DoubleDerper wrote: post #6
squarefoot wrote: post #2

If this turns out to work as promised, in a idealistic universe, Moderna gets a big influx of money from all countries in the world and they immediately publish details and surrender any patent allowing the treatment to be produced worldwide and be affordable for everyone.

i love this idea. worldbank or imf or gates or thiel foundation compensates the company for opening the patent for the benefit of humanity.

imagine the conspiracy theories though...

"No you can't just fight cancer this way, that's cheating, drink this completely natural juice made from pulped fruits and vegetables that have been growing separately for 80 million years."

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