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Confirmed: He Who Sits the Most Dies the Soonest

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Re: Confirmed: He Who Sits the Most Dies the Soonest

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Post by bwh2 »

bcl wrote: post #19
bwh2 wrote: post #8

I work at a standing desk and I've noticed several benefits: * No leg pain. Extended sitting hurts blood flow to my legs, causing leg pain. * Less back pain. Even in chairs designed to promote good posture, I somehow manage to slouch or arch and give myself back problems. * Strong calves. * I'm more likely to drink water. I'm already standing, so there's a smaller barrier to filling up my bottle at the water cooler.

How long did it take to notice these results? Are you normally an active person or is standing your primary form of 'exercise'?

I'm normally active. I thought standing all day would tire me out, discouraging me from normal exercise. But it's been the opposite; I'm much more inclined to exercise after work now. Probably because my leg and back pain have disappeared.

The first two weeks are tough. Your legs get tired, feet sore, etc. But after that, the benefits kicked in. I also bought decent sneakers and an anti-fatigue mat to stand on (~$20).

Re: Confirmed: He Who Sits the Most Dies the Soonest

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Post by stcredzero »

sheeps wrote: post #15
gwern wrote: post #13

This reminds me of another correlational study I was tickled pink to read, and I just had to quote it in one of my essays http://www.gwern.net/Nicotine#fn7 : > "…Based on these figures, and expected deaths from all causes, the authors calculated that an individual who spends a lifetime average of six hours a day watching TV can expect to live just under five fewer years than someone who does not watch TV. These figur…

Make sure you stand while smoking it, though. :-)

At a bar with a whiskey?

Re: Confirmed: He Who Sits the Most Dies the Soonest

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Post by stcredzero »

therobotking wrote: post #16
noblethrasher wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

http://health.yahoo.net/experts/menshealth/most-dangerous-th... "British researchers found that (sitting) bus drivers were twice as likely to die of heart attacks as (standing) trolley operators." The idea is that bus drivers and trolley operators are similar in all the other important respects (e.g. socio-economic backgrounds).

My father was a bus driver and he had a heart attack in his late 50s. The number of men he worked with who also had heart attacks was staggering. When he visits the hospital for his regular check-ups he always meets other bus drivers. It's really quite alarming.

Diesel fumes?

Re: Confirmed: He Who Sits the Most Dies the Soonest

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Post by Rage »

MarkMc wrote: post #20
Rage wrote: post #3

Ok, but WHY ? 40% more chance of dying in the next 3 years, but WHY ? because the chair broke ? They just did statistics and conclude that sitting is harmfull. Ok. But i'm sure we can also find that, for example, more men died than women. Does that mean being a man can kill you ? I don't mean being sat most of the time isn't harmfull, but i mean this study doesn't PROVE anything.

Yes, being a man gives you more chance of dying, but this study showed the increased risk of sitting even when taking this into account. Their result summary says they adjusted for factors including "sex, age, education, urban/rural residence, physical activity, body mass index, smoking status, self-rated health, and disability": http://archinte.ama-assn.org/cgi/content/abstract/172/6/494

okay, but still, why ? Statistics aren't reliable for they can state anything.

Re: Confirmed: He Who Sits the Most Dies the Soonest

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Post by aGHz »

Rage wrote: post #25
MarkMc wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes, being a man gives you more chance of dying, but this study showed the increased risk of sitting even when taking this into account. Their result summary says they adjusted for factors including "sex, age, education, urban/rural residence, physical activity, body mass index, smoking status, self-rated health, and disability": http://archinte.ama-assn.org/cgi/content/abstract/172/6/494

okay, but still, why ? Statistics aren't reliable for they can state anything.

What you're showing here is a very typical fundamental misunderstanding of what statistics is. It's not that they can "state anything", it's that everything they state comes with a confidence interval, so they are -probabilistically- very reliable actually.

Re: Confirmed: He Who Sits the Most Dies the Soonest

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Post by Rage »

aGHz wrote: post #26
Rage wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

okay, but still, why ? Statistics aren't reliable for they can state anything.

What you're showing here is a very typical fundamental misunderstanding of what statistics is. It's not that they can "state anything", it's that everything they state comes with a confidence interval, so they are -probabilistically- very reliable actually.

Hu, i meant, you can make statistics "state" anything you want is you twist them right.

BUT STILL, WHY ARE WE DYIN YOUNGER IFF SEATED OFTEN ?

Re: Confirmed: He Who Sits the Most Dies the Soonest

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Post by sathishmanohar »

> Its most striking finding was that people who sat more than 11 hours a day had a 40% higher risk of dying in the next three years than people who sat less than four hours a day.

I don't normally call bullshit on stories, but this statistic is f'ing stupid, I've spent 14 years in school and 3 years in college after that some 3 years as web designer. Its fair to say all that time, I've spent more than 11 hours a day, sitting. So, statistically speaking 40% of my schoolmates, college mates and colleagues should be dead by now, unfortunately thats is not the case.

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