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Granting pardon for the offense of simple possession of or use of marijuana

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None of what you say counters their point. At the end of the day African Americans commit a disproportionate amount of crime, it would be a miracle if they didn't have more prior convictions on average.

Citation needed. All the stats we have focus around arrests, charges, convictions, so any systemic racism in enforcement is included. African Americans being arrested more per capita for a crime is not inherently the same as committing more crime per capita. I have a hard time figuring how you could ever prove your claim, because how do you show who committed crimes that were either not suspects, or crimes that weren…

Simple, crime correlates with poverty, and African Americans are disproportionally poor. It would take a miracle for them not to commit more crime.

Re: Granting pardon for the offense of simple possession of or use of marijuana

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Fentanyl is legal. It’s part of most epidurals given during childbirth, used for palliative care, and for all kinds of pain relief in medical settings.

Nuclear weapons are legal too. I just can't buy one.

Re: Granting pardon for the offense of simple possession of or use of marijuana

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For reference, as of January 2022 there were ZERO people in federal custody solely for simple possession of marijuana[0]. As a gesture, this seems fine. But the continued presence of cannabis on Schedule I makes an absolute mockery out of our entire code of laws. [0]: https://www.ussc.gov/research/research-reports/weighing-impa...

But the pardon can allow those with convictions on their record to live a normal life. Edit: major caveat, all the data harvesting and background check firms generally do not proactively purge their data sets as they’re supposed to. It’s your obligation to follow up with every single one of them individually, and there are a whole lot of them, they operate under the radar, and it’s hard to contact them. Finally it’s…

Pardons don't expunge criminal records.

Expungement is a judicial remedy that is rarely granted by the court and cannot be granted within the Department of Justice or by the President.

https://www.justice.gov/pardon/frequently-asked-questions

Re: Granting pardon for the offense of simple possession of or use of marijuana

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Its macabre that I can walk into a nice clean store and get personalized service to buy something that thousands are sitting in prison for.

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Is anyone actually in prison for abortion?

Re: Granting pardon for the offense of simple possession of or use of marijuana

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But the pardon can allow those with convictions on their record to live a normal life. Edit: major caveat, all the data harvesting and background check firms generally do not proactively purge their data sets as they’re supposed to. It’s your obligation to follow up with every single one of them individually, and there are a whole lot of them, they operate under the radar, and it’s hard to contact them. Finally it’s…

> Finally it’s impossible to verify they actually did. Sounds like an opportunity for someone to set up a service which does. Do the verification I mean. :)

Sounds like an opportunity to sell snake oil, when you can't actually verify they're doing anything at all

Re: Granting pardon for the offense of simple possession of or use of marijuana

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No one in the feds actually was released from this. Zero people.

I was locked up with a guy who spent his whole life from 17 to early 50s (and went blind as a result of medical neglect of his diabetes during) for "conspiracy to distribute" Marijuana, even though he never had any in his possession.

Don't fall for this idiocy. Biden is one of the biggest reasons for systemic racism in law enforcement.

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Normalizing the use of the equipment guarantees additional future domestic purchases, subscriptions, and other support revenue.

Does it really? Do people really think "Ah but of course the military needs more money, it's given a good use, since the police get it afterwards"?

https://www.military.com/daily-news/2015/01/28/pentagon-tell...

Please tell me more about Congress spending money on equipment the military doesn't need or want isn't corporate welfare for Defense Contractors.

Eisenhower even warned us to such actions in 1961, and literally if there was ever someone who would know: it would be a man that was on both sides as a high-ranking general and President. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eisenhower%27s_farewell_addres...

Re: Granting pardon for the offense of simple possession of or use of marijuana

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Cannabis laws applied to all Americans.

At the discretion of both law enforcement officers and prosecutors.

Do you have evidence that cannabis laws were enforced disproportionately?

Re: Granting pardon for the offense of simple possession of or use of marijuana

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In absolute numbers, the harm from weed is increasing as more people use it. As a rate, it’s a rounding error compared to alcohol. For instance[1]: “According to the 2022 Survey on Drug Use and Health (NSDUH), 29.5 million people ages 12 and older (10.5% in this age group) had AUD in the past year.” Compare that to[2]: “The incidence rate of cannabis-induced psychosis increased steadily from 2.8 per 100 000 person ye…

Fair enough, but youths seem to overdo everything. And alcohol is one of those things you can overdo. I'm curious as to where the break-even is. e.g. one joint per day is as harmful as 2.5 beers per day.

Also a good point.

Re: Granting pardon for the offense of simple possession of or use of marijuana

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I don't disagree that this is good for those involved or affected. However, nothing stops the same from happening to someone tomorrow. The past several administrations have been relying too heavily on executive fiat for the optics. The DEA needs to reschedule it. Anything else is at best a band-aid, if not simple lip service to buy votes.

The optics, for a modern democratic republic, aren’t even that fantastic: pardons and proclamations are the acts of Kings. Democracies change laws through debate, legislation, and the voting by the representatives of the people. I hope this pardon doesn’t dilute the will for more substantive drug policy reform.

The problem is that the US has difficulty operating as a modern democracy in general.

Yeah sure, I agree with you that proclamations and executive orders are inherently vulnerable to the whims of whomever happens to hold the office and have no place in a democracy.

But the legislative branch, as it currently operates, is not much different. In practice it results in huge pendulum swings and deadlocks, making every 2 years (because midterms) a nail biting event for the populous because hard fought rights and legislation can be undone in the blink of an eye.

As someone who grew up in a coalition country, it’s saddening to see how people around me here in the US are constantly in a state of anxiety, filled with despair like someone who’s awaiting the return of an abusive spouse from work, wondering what will happen this time.

If we somehow could get rid of the FPTP system in our legislative system, then we can rid ourselves from the two party system. Not only will this significantly lessen things like gerrymandering, and the power of lobbying, but it would force parties to form a coalition because it’s less likely that one single party holds the majority of seats.

Parties would have to actually debate each other and try to convince each other, make concessions on all sides, in order to form a coalition.

The result of this is a more steady course in government policy, with sweeping pendulum swings being rarer and the changes being made being more nuanced.

Subsequently the citizenry doesn’t have to be on high alert 24/7 and the country can function more like a modern democracy.

And next thing in the agenda would be judicial reform.

Until then, both the legislative branch and the executive branch will subject us to whims and other pendulum swings.

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