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Lapsus$: GTA 6 hacker handed indefinite hospital order

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This is an 18 year old kid.

This is an 18 year old adult.

No one is adult at 18. Your brain is not mature fully until 25. Anyone who has experienced the age and has normal intelligence knows this.

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>Doctors deemed Kurtaj unfit to stand trial due to his acute autism The kid was able to join an international cybergang and hack into a multi-billion dollar corporation. That doesn't sound like somebody who's incapable of standing trial. The article also said that he was violent in custody, but it doesn't mention any form of violence when he was out on the streets. I'm not a lawyer (much less a British one), but an i…

I wonder how much of the nebulous “violent in custody” is true. This sounds like he’s being railroaded (like only the Brits can do) because some wealthy Americans are breathing down their necks.

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This would be a much better TV series script than that "The Good Doctor" crap. No offense to all the "The Good Doctor" fans. (We all have our own "crappy" stuff we like) Society would improve if we could turn these high skilled individuals into productive law abiding citizens without having to go through A Clockwork Orange kind of "reeducation".

Sounds like his court hearing was "I AM A HACKER! I AM A HACKER!!"

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For anyone who skips the article and comes straight to the comments, this is not because of the hacking. This is because of (alleged) violence and expressed eagerness to return to cybercrime. > The court heard that Kurtaj had been violent while in custody with dozens of reports of injury or property damage. > A mental health assessment used as part of the sentencing hearing said he "continued to express the intent to…

What a cool kid honestly.

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> The jury was told that while he was on bail for hacking Nvidia and BT/EE and in police protection at a Travelodge hotel, he continued hacking and carried out his most infamous hack. >Despite having his laptop confiscated, Kurtaj managed to breach Rockstar, the company behind GTA, using an Amazon Firestick, his hotel TV and a mobile phone. This sounds too fantastical to be true. This guy is obviously brilliant, disa…

> This sounds too fantastical to be true. Use Firestick as RDP/VNC client, use mobile phone for internet, obtain keyboard from Amazon Shopping, remote into a VM, proceed as usual?

Use phone, ring overworked admin.

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No, not life in prison. Detention in a psychiatric hospital for an autistic person who is violently attacking other people. > dozens of reports of injury or property damage

Though we don't consider it such, because we accept that police are needed to maintain some level of order and it's not good when people resist arrest, the violence was more or less in self-defense. I think there's a huge difference between someone (especially someone with "severe autism") lashing out when getting more or less abducted and removed from a familiar environment by force (even if we'd prefer they stay ca…

At least state side resisting arrest can be stopping an officers fist with your head, or putting your hands up to block being hit. The bar is so low and the penalties can be absurdly high, including felony charges in many states. It’s basically a way of enhancing charges or creating charges where there’s not enough evidence to produce other charges, and almost always used as a plea bargain cudgel.

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From TFA, and given prior hacks, he's very skilled.

Each hack was going into a company Slack server and saying "hell o i am the admin gibe me password". I'm not impressed.

Personally, I think that a skilled exploiter is the one who finds such an easy loophole and exploits it efficiently and first; not the one who writes the most impressive code or finds the deepest algorithmic backdoor. I respect social engineering as much as anything when it comes to this domain.

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Empathy, not emotions. Empathy: the ability to understand and share the feelings of another.

Autism doesn't preclude empathy at all. In fact, I would say it augments it once the other person's feelings are understood . What's generally lacking is realising the other is feeling in a certain way until it's explained to them or they have otherwise rationalised that feeling. Which, relatively ironically, will never be enough to make a neurotypical person feel empathy.

I don’t understand why you explain this to me. I just answered empty vs emotion. I am not discussing anything.

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How can you possibly restrict someone from using electronic devices? This sounds entirely unenforceable without imprisonment.

There has been such enforcement while people are on probation, I don't see why it couldn't be longterm.

That requires voluntary compliance from the offender. He was already released on bail with that condition, and that's when he hacked Rockstar. He has also told the court that he would continue hacking if released.

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Only just an adult. A few years, the hormones might calm down and, well, if we gave up on all 18 year old adults there wouldn't be too many of us left. Don't judge the future, create the future.

> A few years, the hormones might calm down and, well, if we gave up on all 18 year old adults there wouldn't be too many of us left Boys will be boys /s I cannot believe I saw someone give this kind of a statement on HN.

I'm more surprised by your comment, to be honest.
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