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We didn't get involved because of the holocaust. At the time many favored it in the US. Only near the end did se realise how horrible it was
> We didn't get involved because of the holocaust Nobody claimed we did!
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Or the U.S. unloads cruise missiles on Houthi locations like last time and business returns to normal.
Or maybe iran deduces that the US isnt capable of doing the same to them and makes this unimaginably worse.
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Well yes, the goal is to shoot, talking wont bring more profit to lockheed after all, only killing can do that.
You're oversimplifying I'm afraid. Just because people make money out of war doesn't necessarily mean it's for no reason. Just like the war on Nazis, some wars have to be fought, especially if your goal is to save lives.
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> We didn't get involved because of the holocaust Nobody claimed we did!
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Sorry buddy, you’ve gone off the deep end. Germany wasn’t winning WWI, with or without America. What our involvement did was shorten the war’s duration and lighten the terms of the Treaty of Versailles a tad.
As for America being responsible for the Holocaust, you’re wrong. I know where you’re getting this , and while I don’t think you’re going to be deprogrammed by Internet comments I hope flagging this as abject nonsense will prevent others from going down that path.
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China is involved by coming out aginst Isreal. Thus they support this terror campaign overall.
Aren't China consistently critical of violent aggression? I don't see how their being critical of Israeli violence is supporting terrorism elsewhere. China are one of the main players in trying to encourage peace talks between Saudi Arabia and Yemen. I feel like you're maybe trying to make a different point but avoiding saying it?
No, they frequently support violence when it’s internal suppression. They also support violence for e.g. taking Taiwan.
The simple answer is China can have its cake and eat it too, so why not.
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Well yes, the goal is to shoot, talking wont bring more profit to lockheed after all, only killing can do that.
You're oversimplifying I'm afraid. Just because people make money out of war doesn't necessarily mean it's for no reason. Just like the war on Nazis, some wars have to be fought, especially if your goal is to save lives.
The commenter you’re responding to would have preferred we’d let the Nazis do their thing [1].
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#147I like how Chinese do not want to get involved in protecting vessels, despite the fact that it’s their containers on board. Oh well, good old America has to save capitalism, yet again :)
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Their grievances are pretty simple and straightforward, they even put them in writing on their flag, which is just green and red text on a white background. Which ones specifically are you willing to support or concede for peace? Here's the list: 1. God is the Greatest 2. Death to America 3. Death to Israel 4. A Curse Upon the Jews 5. Victory to Islam
Does it make you feel intelligent to reduce a complex organism to whats on a flag?
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People argue about what motivated the 9/11 highjackers. Some will say, bin laden hated America, forget what he says about dual containment, he actually just hates us and is using that as a justification. Others will say, look, hes pointing out exactly what hes mad about, he says it right there. The former calls the latter naïve, the latter calls the former bellicose, they could well be both wrong. Maybe bin laden did…
> all suicide bombings from 1980 to 2005 were the result of a people being occupied These aren’t suicide bombings. They’re helicopter-assisted seizures and anti-ship missile attacks. > I find it far more likely that theyd rather be home with their kids than out in the field guarding an unguardable missile launcher So would have many Nazis. For what it’s worth, I don’t think the Houthis are evil. Their domestic war is…
Look, just, for a second consider that you are treating iran as a bogeyman, they gave us intelligence on al queda after 9/11, they held a candlelight vigil in tehran for the victims. How much do you really know about iran? Are you really so confident that you understand everything thats happened there? How well, are you confident enough to get people killed over it?
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Right, and history started 2 months ago. There was never a partner for peace of course, not when we gave chemical weapons to Saddam, not when we invaded and turned the place into a shooting gallery for no reason, not when we rejected the talibans offer to turn over bin laden, not when we let him escape into Pakistan, not when we turned Libya into a failed state, not when we invaded somalia, not when we propped up a d…
You're describing life. This is diplomacy, while we can argue about its effectiveness I'm certain we can agree that it's still better than China, Russia and or Iran. It's just a matter of perspective - the west is the lesser evil here