I like how Chinese do not want to get involved in protecting vessels, despite the fact that it’s their containers on board. Oh well, good old America has to save capitalism, yet again :)
African Ports Overwhelmed by Red Sea Reroutings
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#82Earlier quoted context omitted.
Or the U.S. unloads cruise missiles on Houthi locations like last time and business returns to normal.
Or maybe iran deduces that the US isnt capable of doing the same to them and makes this unimaginably worse.
Why do you think we moved a carrier strike group to the Strait of Hormuz before sailing it to Yemen [1]?
[1] https://www.navytimes.com/news/your-navy/2023/11/27/ike-carr...
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#83Earlier quoted context omitted.
People told them to stop. The Houthis don't want to stop and instead continue to attack others. Mist it is.
Right, telling them to stop, that addresses their greivances, you should be a diplomat.
But even dropping dead collectively, how can I make sure all my people get a curse and America is dead too?
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#84I think most miss is that what the media refers to as "Houthis", is the de facto Shia Government of Yemen. Pointing this out because some of the comments read as bafflement over their organization and equipment. They are not a rag tag collection of villagers who decided pirating is the best path forward. They are often trained military.
> is the de facto Shia Government of Yemen They “exert de facto authority over the bulk of North Yemen” [1]. The problem is there is no single person who controls their armed groups. So striking a deal with one person provides zero assurance around what the others will do. [1] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Houthi_movement#Houthi-contr...
How do they get money for arms? Where do the arms come from? Why is the government unable to exert any realistic control within their own borders?
I know its a complex political problem, but I still don't get how in 2023 we still have warlords and quasi-states like this.
Is the government of Yemen so incompetent they can't exert any control over these areas? I would believe that, to be honest. I'm simply baffled is all.
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#86I think most miss is that what the media refers to as "Houthis", is the de facto Shia Government of Yemen. Pointing this out because some of the comments read as bafflement over their organization and equipment. They are not a rag tag collection of villagers who decided pirating is the best path forward. They are often trained military.
> is the de facto Shia Government of Yemen They “exert de facto authority over the bulk of North Yemen” [1]. The problem is there is no single person who controls their armed groups. So striking a deal with one person provides zero assurance around what the others will do. [1] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Houthi_movement#Houthi-contr...
They're primarily a clan/tribe - al-Houthi.
It's fairly organized like other clan systems. The issue is they don't want to negotiate. They have bad blood stretching from the Saleh government and even earlier - the same way how Daesh is able to hold Deir ez-Zur because of Al-Bakr support.
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#87Earlier quoted context omitted.
Trade typically involves a buyer and a seller.
They are definitely not American containers. Yet everyone counts on America to save the day! Multipolar world my ass.
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#88Earlier quoted context omitted.
> is the de facto Shia Government of Yemen They “exert de facto authority over the bulk of North Yemen” [1]. The problem is there is no single person who controls their armed groups. So striking a deal with one person provides zero assurance around what the others will do. [1] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Houthi_movement#Houthi-contr...
> So striking a deal with one person provides zero assurance around what the others will do They're primarily a clan/tribe - al-Houthi. It's fairly organized like other clan systems. The issue is they don't want to negotiate. They have bad blood stretching from the Saleh government and even earlier - the same way how Daesh is able to hold Deir ez-Zur because of Al-Bakr support.
Embedded with foreign fighters. (EDIT: Nvm.)
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#90I like how Chinese do not want to get involved in protecting vessels, despite the fact that it’s their containers on board. Oh well, good old America has to save capitalism, yet again :)
AFAIK China's navy isn't currently designed for such long-range deployments.