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How to turn off Google's "privacy sandbox" ad tracking, and why you should

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Re: How to turn off Google's "privacy sandbox" ad tracking, and why you should

#101

Glad I'm a Firefox user.

That helps, but It's still meaningless if your machine has Intel or AMD CPUs running Windows or macOS.

In that case I'm glad to say I'm a happy MX Linux user. I get your point about the OSs especially windows, but what privacy issues are there running intel/amd CPUs?

Re: How to turn off Google's "privacy sandbox" ad tracking, and why you should

#102
post #59

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As mentioned by a sibling comment Google will be sued for antitrust reasons if they remove third party cookies as some other ad businesses rely on them. So in order to remove third party cookies Google must provide an alternative for other advertisers to use instead.

I’m a little confused about that idea because it seems like as the article describes it, this locks out third party advertisers from using third-party cookies while giving Google a loophole for their own advertising business.

The privacy sandbox APIs are all designed so that they can be used by any ad tech company. Google doesn't have privileged access to them.

(Disclosure: until 1.5y ago I worked at Google, including on things related to the privacy sandbox.)

Re: How to turn off Google's "privacy sandbox" ad tracking, and why you should

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post #96

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Also, switch to something non-Chromium if at all possible. Which brings us in the paradoxical situation that if you want there to be any choice left at all in browsers then you're pretty much forced to choose firefox.

Why? If tomorrow Google turns next-level evil in terms of privacy / steering the web, Microsoft will have forked Chromium within a week, and everyone (Edge, Brave, Vivaldi, etc) will swap their upstream immediately. People have this illusion that Google has an ironclad grip on Chromium, but they don’t. It’s maximally permissively licensed, the only reason they get to decide much is because they put in (pay) the dev h…

Afaik they want the same thing as google, our data, just geared their way. We are not protesting that Google is doing it, but more the general fact that it is done.

Re: How to turn off Google's "privacy sandbox" ad tracking, and why you should

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post #96

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Also, switch to something non-Chromium if at all possible. Which brings us in the paradoxical situation that if you want there to be any choice left at all in browsers then you're pretty much forced to choose firefox.

Why? If tomorrow Google turns next-level evil in terms of privacy / steering the web, Microsoft will have forked Chromium within a week, and everyone (Edge, Brave, Vivaldi, etc) will swap their upstream immediately. People have this illusion that Google has an ironclad grip on Chromium, but they don’t. It’s maximally permissively licensed, the only reason they get to decide much is because they put in (pay) the dev h…

How much more evil do you want Google to get before it’s problematic that they control the portal through which most people interact with the web (both browser/engine and search)? And why not use Firefox (or Safari/WebKit) already?

Re: How to turn off Google's "privacy sandbox" ad tracking, and why you should

#105
post #46

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Hear hear. Of course, on my workstation Chrome is "the recommended browser for internal applications" and firefox is a developer special request which is not allowed to support add-ons

Do they allow extensions on Chrome?

They do, approved extensions. But for example dark mode can be added to chrome, but not to ff.

Re: How to turn off Google's "privacy sandbox" ad tracking, and why you should

#106

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Do you even browse, bro? Profiles have existed in FF for a very long time, I believe even back to the launch of Chrome. I think what Chrome did was made them readily accessible. I might have the history slightly wrong, but FF has had them at least as far back as 2011. Can you please share where profiles have been requested for many years?

I don't compare it to Google's because it's hidden and not readily accessible like Chromium's version therefore I didn't consider them equal. The part that has been requested is to make them accessible and first class and not tucked in behind screens that look like internal "power user" screens

Click menu. Click sign in. Sign in. Browse. Click menu. Click username. Click sign out. How is that hidden?

Re: How to turn off Google's "privacy sandbox" ad tracking, and why you should

#107

If you care at all about privacy and the future of a free Internet, this really should be that watershed moment that makes you take your head out of the sand. Seriously. Uninstall Chrome today and switch to something else. It’s only if enough people do it that they lose their grip and influence.

Every single person could switch and it wouldn't make enough of a dent to change anything -that, and also change to what? Firefox? Who's one of the the largest sponsors of Firefox -if not the largest- again?

Re: How to turn off Google's "privacy sandbox" ad tracking, and why you should

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post #96

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Also, switch to something non-Chromium if at all possible. Which brings us in the paradoxical situation that if you want there to be any choice left at all in browsers then you're pretty much forced to choose firefox.

Why? If tomorrow Google turns next-level evil in terms of privacy / steering the web, Microsoft will have forked Chromium within a week, and everyone (Edge, Brave, Vivaldi, etc) will swap their upstream immediately. People have this illusion that Google has an ironclad grip on Chromium, but they don’t. It’s maximally permissively licensed, the only reason they get to decide much is because they put in (pay) the dev h…

> If tomorrow Google turns next-level evil in terms of privacy / steering the web, Microsoft will have forked Chromium within a week

Or, Microsoft will be happy with this "next-level evil."

Re: How to turn off Google's "privacy sandbox" ad tracking, and why you should

#109
post #81

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There a plenty of non-ad-driver services that allow hosting blogs for free. Github, cloudfare’s free tier, and many others - and you can certainly find a one-click vm deployment of a blogging platform for less then 5$. I believe this implies that saying that you must have ads to have free online services is a fallacy.

All of those businesses subsidize their sites because they're billion dollar companies. Is that better than just... using ads? > I believe this implies that saying that you must have ads to have free online services is a fallacy. I'm saying someone has to pay for it.

Hosting a static cheap is cheap. And even something powered by a CMS can be hosted on a cheap droplet. No one really expects you to share contents like video and music for free (and even that can be done cheaply if you’re only loking at a few TB of monthly bandwith). So yeah, someone should pay for it, but the internet itself isn’t free and everyone is paying for it.

Re: How to turn off Google's "privacy sandbox" ad tracking, and why you should

#110
post #86

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You're talking about the internet when it was tiny and inaccessible, and you're acting like that was good. That's a position to take, but I don't think it's a good one - again, I would not have been able to write my blog for free, the sites we take for granted today would not exist. The only way to actually publish would be to have technical skills and money, which I don't think is good.

It was NOT inaccessible Look up geocities maybe, most providers gave you some free space anyhow

Geocities had ads for most of its life. It also ended up dead because it wasn't profitable anyways. Not the best example.

Providers didn't offer free space, you paid for it with your subscription, and you would lose if you changed provider.

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