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Lapsus$: GTA 6 hacker handed indefinite hospital order

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#191
This would be a much better TV series script than that "The Good Doctor" crap. No offense to all the "The Good Doctor" fans. (We all have our own "crappy" stuff we like)

Society would improve if we could turn these high skilled individuals into productive law abiding citizens without having to go through A Clockwork Orange kind of "reeducation".

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#192

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autism doesn't mean he doesn't have emotions

A valid diagnosis of one condition doesn’t preclude a litany of seriously dangerous other ones, either, correct?

You might as well say "He has psoriasis, he might also be an axe murderer." No, one fact doesn't preclude the existence of other facts, very good. That doesn't mean that making stigmatising connections is reasonable.

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#193

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This guy is as much of a "cyber security threat" as your typical socially-awkward gamer teenager, of which we have plenty of. Every internet-connected server out there constantly gets probed by bots/tools often operated by similar people and nothing is ever done about it. This guy's crime wasn't that he was hacking/phishing/stalking or the general obnoxious behavior that often comes with this kind of person - this is…

> This guy is as much of a "cyber security threat" as your typical socially-awkward gamer teenager, of which we have plenty of The following quote seems to indicate that the skills of this individual is much sharper than "typical socially-awkward gamer teenager": > Kurtaj managed to breach Rockstar, the company behind GTA, using an Amazon Firestick, his hotel TV and a mobile phone

All that means is that he used his phone and another android device (the fire stick) + the TV as a monitor, to access whatever remote machine he has via SSH, not exactly rocket science

And that's the point, the propaganda machine is working overtime to paint the kid as some horrifically dangerous criminal because he exposed the clowns in power that easily could've pdevented all this.

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#194

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> This sounds too fantastical to be true. Use Firestick as RDP/VNC client, use mobile phone for internet, obtain keyboard from Amazon Shopping, remote into a VM, proceed as usual?

Like sure, it is technically possible he runs termux, has all of his hacking tools available, and is amazingly good with an onscreen keyboard. That being said, if this were an episode of CSI, I would be rolling my eyes.

> has all of his hacking tools available

So there's this wonderful program called wget.

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#196

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And has no empathy, which makes him a lot more dangerous.

autism doesn't mean he doesn't have emotions

He may have emotions but certainly he doesn't care about those of others and the damage he can provoke. He actually wants to continue to be a criminal.

FTA: A mental health assessment used as part of the sentencing hearing said he "continued to express the intent to return to cyber-crime as soon as possible. He is highly motivated."

The guy needs help because he's autistic, and watched closely because he's also a sociopath.

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#197
He is a danger to crappy security and those that fear free thinkers like him.

There ought to be laws against locking people like him up.

Rockstar said it cost them thousands of hours to recover...they could have asked him, and it might have cost them orders of magnitude less.

Rockstar has hired the wrong people, lol.

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#198

> He will remain at a secure hospital for life unless doctors deem him no longer a danger, Southwark crown court heard on Thursday. For life, haha. Probably a few months at most. > Many young people wish to explore how technology works and what vulnerabilities exist. This can include learning to code, interacting with like-minded individuals online and experimenting with tools. Learning to code and experimenting is w…

There’s often no mechanism for responsible disclosure, and you put yourself at just as much risk doing so with good intentions.

Best outcome is generally do nothing at all. Never any upside.

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#199

> He will remain at a secure hospital for life unless doctors deem him no longer a danger, Southwark crown court heard on Thursday. For life, haha. Probably a few months at most. > Many young people wish to explore how technology works and what vulnerabilities exist. This can include learning to code, interacting with like-minded individuals online and experimenting with tools. Learning to code and experimenting is w…

[According to the article] He has acute autism, is violent in custody and expressed intent to continue comitting crimes. This isn't just "some kid with potential" – he will end up in prison sooner of later, which will be an especially hellish place for someone like that to be.

I hope he gets the help he needs. Maybe courtesy of certain British spooky agencies.

Re: Lapsus$: GTA 6 hacker handed indefinite hospital order

#200

> He will remain at a secure hospital for life unless doctors deem him no longer a danger, Southwark crown court heard on Thursday. For life, haha. Probably a few months at most. > Many young people wish to explore how technology works and what vulnerabilities exist. This can include learning to code, interacting with like-minded individuals online and experimenting with tools. Learning to code and experimenting is w…

You don't understand. Britain respects some basic rights for those considered dangerously bad, but not the "dangerously mad".

I worked as a paper pusher in the UK's mental health appeal system. If they think the patient continues to present a risk of harm to others, there is no escape. It's extremely hard for a patient to convince others they're safe. Many stay in for many more decades than they would have done in prison.

If they think his condition was so severe that it made the criminal decision for him, they might not ever be convinced he's stopped being a danger until his condition is cured. Given autism is not a curable mental disorder, this outcome is a bit of a scandal.

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