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Lapsus$: GTA 6 hacker handed indefinite hospital order

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Post by whalesalad »

cedws wrote: post #165
whalesalad wrote: post #127

Absolutely monumental waste of talent. Reminds me of how I got expelled from high school for "hacking" into their terrible infrastructure (without causing any damage whatsoever, other than to their pride). They threw the book at me. Threatened felonies. Were going on and on about how I will never vote, never be able to work as a postal worker etc. Get this kid into the right environment and he would probably be able…

He has (from what it sounds like) moderate autism. He's not just a misguided curious little fella that needs to be set on the right path. He needs a lot of help and to be kept far away from bad influences and temptation.

> a misguided curious little fella

everyone, everywhere, is a misguided curious little fella.

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Post by drivingmenuts »

imglorp wrote: post #51
jvanderbot wrote: post #42

Earlier quoted context omitted.

From TFA, and given prior hacks, he's very skilled.

Someone should hire him as a white hat. Maybe they have some kind of custodial guardianship where the employer can monitor him staying clean.

How about the British intelligence apparatus? Seems like a person they would be very interested in acquiring.

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Post by matteoraso »

>Doctors deemed Kurtaj unfit to stand trial due to his acute autism

The kid was able to join an international cybergang and hack into a multi-billion dollar corporation. That doesn't sound like somebody who's incapable of standing trial. The article also said that he was violent in custody, but it doesn't mention any form of violence when he was out on the streets. I'm not a lawyer (much less a British one), but an indefinite hospital order is way too severe for a non-violent crime. Hopefully he gets a retrial.

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Post by whalesalad »

networkchad wrote: post #159
whalesalad wrote: post #135

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> dozens of reports of injury or property damage. Eh, this is not outside the realm of expectations for an autistic teenager. Anyone locked in a cage will lash out, especially if they have neurological issues. There is a way to harness this energy regardless.

> There is a way to harness this energy regardless. Yeah, it is called prison. I don't care if someone is "autistic" or "shit-head asshole". If you are a violent son of a bitch, I have a concrete cage with bars to house you in.

You do realize that this is the "correctional system" right? With the goal to fix/correct/reintegrate people into society? What if you can do that before locking them up and throwing away the key? You have zero empathy, friend.

Also - this individual is clearly a brilliant hacker and if that energy could be directed towards the white hat space, defensive posture, that would be invaluable.

Guaranteed Mi6 will be trying to snag this kid for offensive hacking. He'd have been hired already by NSA if he was in the US.

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Post by s1artibartfast »

thomastjeffery wrote: post #161
s1artibartfast wrote: post #96

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Neurodivergence isn't a free pass to commit all the crimes you want. Lots of shooters are neurodivergent. That doesn't mean that society has to let them kill all they want.

If course it isn't. Neurodivergence is a reality . Our justice system can do better than be ignorant of it. Our justice system can do better than to escalate its symptoms. As a participant in democracy, I will accept no lower standard for justice. This person wasn't killing people. He was looking at secrets. There are people who don't understand that murder is wrong, and those people need to be institutionalized for…

This person was robbing and blackmailing people.

The justice system serves to prevent these actions, and should do so no matter what the mental state of the criminal is.

Is your honest solution just to let them continue doing that as an accommodation for their disability?

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Post by [deleted] »

matteoraso wrote: post #173

>Doctors deemed Kurtaj unfit to stand trial due to his acute autism The kid was able to join an international cybergang and hack into a multi-billion dollar corporation. That doesn't sound like somebody who's incapable of standing trial. The article also said that he was violent in custody, but it doesn't mention any form of violence when he was out on the streets. I'm not a lawyer (much less a British one), but an i…

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Post by networkchad »

whalesalad wrote: post #174
networkchad wrote: post #159

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> There is a way to harness this energy regardless. Yeah, it is called prison. I don't care if someone is "autistic" or "shit-head asshole". If you are a violent son of a bitch, I have a concrete cage with bars to house you in.

You do realize that this is the "correctional system" right? With the goal to fix/correct/reintegrate people into society? What if you can do that before locking them up and throwing away the key? You have zero empathy, friend. Also - this individual is clearly a brilliant hacker and if that energy could be directed towards the white hat space, defensive posture, that would be invaluable. Guaranteed Mi6 will be tryin…

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Post by rad_gruchalski »

aszantu wrote: post #128
squarefoot wrote: post #55

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And has no empathy, which makes him a lot more dangerous.

autism doesn't mean he doesn't have emotions

Empathy, not emotions.

Empathy: the ability to understand and share the feelings of another.

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Post by squigz »

LorenPechtel wrote: post #132
whalesalad wrote: post #127

Absolutely monumental waste of talent. Reminds me of how I got expelled from high school for "hacking" into their terrible infrastructure (without causing any damage whatsoever, other than to their pride). They threw the book at me. Threatened felonies. Were going on and on about how I will never vote, never be able to work as a postal worker etc. Get this kid into the right environment and he would probably be able…

Note the violence. This is a person that can't control themselves when things don't go their way.

This is an 18 year old kid.
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