Tolkien estate wins court order to destroy fan's 'Lord of the Rings' sequel

Post by upon_drumhead » Thu, Dec 21, 2023, 5:30 PM UTC

RecycledEle wrote: post #32

pavel_lishin wrote: post #21

> In April, Polychron sued the Tolkien estate and Amazon. He claimed that “Lord of the Rings: Rings of Power,” an Amazon Prime Video prequel series that was released last year and is one of the few adaptations authorized by the Tolkien estate, infringed on the copyright of his book. He asked for $250 million in compensation. > Polychron said in court documents that he was inspired by Tolkien and the original “Rings”…

These allegations sound similar to the Mexican Inn Cafe Tragedy. Details deleted, sorry. Thank You, American Courts. \s Who is right does not matter in court if someone who is rich enough stands to lose enough money.

Post by Fire-Dragon-DoL » Thu, Dec 21, 2023, 5:32 PM UTC

ToucanLoucan wrote: post #34

s1artibartfast wrote: post #27

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I don't think us courts for courts should be in the business of handing out stupid prizes. Instead, they should be measured and consistent with our longstanding social agreements. Someone has to be the adult in the room and seek the moral high ground.

Courts aren't moral entities, they're legal ones. This person went out of their way to put a completely unnecessary legal target on their back. This is absolutely 100% a stupid prizes scenario. I love fan creation and believe it should be enshrined properly in fair use doctrine, but god damn, I cannot imagine being stupid enough to make fan work of an IP and then sue the IP holder because I think they took my idea. H…

Post by rocmcd » Thu, Dec 21, 2023, 5:34 PM UTC

RecycledEle wrote: post #32

pavel_lishin wrote: post #21

> In April, Polychron sued the Tolkien estate and Amazon. He claimed that “Lord of the Rings: Rings of Power,” an Amazon Prime Video prequel series that was released last year and is one of the few adaptations authorized by the Tolkien estate, infringed on the copyright of his book. He asked for $250 million in compensation. > Polychron said in court documents that he was inspired by Tolkien and the original “Rings”…

These allegations sound similar to the Mexican Inn Cafe Tragedy. Details deleted, sorry. Thank You, American Courts. \s Who is right does not matter in court if someone who is rich enough stands to lose enough money.

Post by ClumsyPilot » Thu, Dec 21, 2023, 5:43 PM UTC

toss1 wrote: post #22

jdksmdbtbdnmsm wrote: post #6

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No aspect of copryright is morally defensible, which is why the lawmakers who created it merely defended it on the grounds of encouraging innovation in science and art.

So you are perfectly OK with laboring for years to conceive, design, and build as unique work of art, writing, or software, from which you could earn a living, and then it being OK for me to just slap my name/label on it and out-market you, taking all the gains and leaving you destitute? Or, are you just someone who does not expect to ever create anything of value?

Post by ClumsyPilot » Thu, Dec 21, 2023, 5:48 PM UTC

ceejayoz wrote: post #46

ClumsyPilot wrote: post #37

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> Because he egregiously misbehaved with his, and this is the resulting punishment This is like some new form of justice, where, if you hit someone with a hammer we punish the hammer?

No; we take away your hammers. It's quite an old approach.