Earlier quoted context omitted.
The other reply mentions that cash is not a good way to help such people, not that they shouldn't be helped. Are you sure you're not reading things into people's replies?
A politically tenable portion of the USA seems to be of the opinion that tax funds should not be used to help ill people just because they are ill, cash or not. This is not an extreme political opinion, nor something that is unreasonable to ask someone whether they believe.
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Re: $750 a month, no questions asked, improved the lives of homeless people
#172As someone who is nearing 2,000 days of two stints of homelessness since 2017, I can offer feedback that such an amount would help to alleviate basic survival pressures. But, money will not solve any root cause issues. I've been unhoused and out of work for so long that any recovery back to a normal life has become exceedingly unlikely. I don't drink alcohol, I don't smoke, nor do I do illicit drugs nor prescriptions…
Direct cash aid is little-to-nonexistent because of the cynical and discriminatory presumptions "people should work (even if they're disabled)" and "they'll just buy booze and drugs with it".
Re: $750 a month, no questions asked, improved the lives of homeless people
#173The top federal income tax rate was 91 percent in 1950 and 1951, and between 1954 and 1959. In 1952 and 1953, the top federal income tax rate was 92 percent. (USA) We need to go back to this. Wealth inequality is damaging society far more than ever. From Onlyfans to Bitcoins Scams, social media platforms has only exacerbated the issue. Will the pendulum swing back to morality and just cause away from lawlessness and…
Wealth inequality is not being caused or exacerbated by Onlyfans and Bitcoin scams or "lack of morality", whatever that means. Corporate and high income taxes have been slashed. This has been going on for decades, but the prior president and congress gave the wealthiest Americans and corporations a two trillion dollar tax cut - a forty percent reduction in corporate taxes - and this was after one trillion dollars in…
Never heard it phrased this way before but I like it. Those that can help more should help more. In fact, most people take pride when they can (over) contribute.
If somebody has a medical emergency on the sidewalk, the doctor walking by would be expected/assumed to help more than Nancy the software engineer.
Nobody would call you insane for expecting the doctor help more because they are more capable.
Re: $750 a month, no questions asked, improved the lives of homeless people
#174The top federal income tax rate was 91 percent in 1950 and 1951, and between 1954 and 1959. In 1952 and 1953, the top federal income tax rate was 92 percent. (USA) We need to go back to this. Wealth inequality is damaging society far more than ever. From Onlyfans to Bitcoins Scams, social media platforms has only exacerbated the issue. Will the pendulum swing back to morality and just cause away from lawlessness and…
Woah, had no idea it was that high. And that's in a decade that is considered one of the best in US history (if you were the "right" demographic of course). Any idea what the top tax bracket was that had that rate? Wonder what it would be now adjusted for inflation.
What about for the "wrong" demographic? You're saying the huge amount of taxes collected didn't go to them?
Re: $750 a month, no questions asked, improved the lives of homeless people
#175The top federal income tax rate was 91 percent in 1950 and 1951, and between 1954 and 1959. In 1952 and 1953, the top federal income tax rate was 92 percent. (USA) We need to go back to this. Wealth inequality is damaging society far more than ever. From Onlyfans to Bitcoins Scams, social media platforms has only exacerbated the issue. Will the pendulum swing back to morality and just cause away from lawlessness and…
Re: $750 a month, no questions asked, improved the lives of homeless people
#176Earlier quoted context omitted.
yea, no doubt if you are down on your luck someone handing you $750/month would improve your circumstances in the short run - but it sounds like perhaps you made changes in your life, such that you are no longer homeless - great - but would you, or anyone else not feeling the desperation of being hungry or unsheltered be more, or less, likely to try and improve your circumstances if you were getting a cash handout ev…
Up to and including homelessness? Objectively no. Homelessness significantly prevents both productive economic activity and maintaining other basic necessities, or even seeking help from others. Weighed against what appears to be a purely philosophically-derived assumption that negative reward signals are not only necessary to motivate useful action but have no diminishing returns, I think the proposition that a home…
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Basic hygiene, a place to store your belongings and clothes, an area to prepare yourself and look good for the day. A location to use a computer or do paperwork or other managerial tasks. The ability to store food and participate in bulk purchases for savings. A place to rest and relax and consume media or enjoy a hobby. A solid place to sleep, every night, in your perferred area and with your perferred pillows and bedding. A place to store a vehicle. A place to bring friends and family and entertain. Cooking the food you want and eating at the schedule that works best for you. A place to organize your external life and showcase your own personality. A familiar place to develop habits and routine.
I don't see how there is any question. People who are homeless not only lack all of these and more, but some suffer additional stress, anxiety, and embarassment about acquiring these basic things every day.
Re: $750 a month, no questions asked, improved the lives of homeless people
#177The top federal income tax rate was 91 percent in 1950 and 1951, and between 1954 and 1959. In 1952 and 1953, the top federal income tax rate was 92 percent. (USA) We need to go back to this. Wealth inequality is damaging society far more than ever. From Onlyfans to Bitcoins Scams, social media platforms has only exacerbated the issue. Will the pendulum swing back to morality and just cause away from lawlessness and…
Wealth inequality is not being caused or exacerbated by Onlyfans and Bitcoin scams or "lack of morality", whatever that means. Corporate and high income taxes have been slashed. This has been going on for decades, but the prior president and congress gave the wealthiest Americans and corporations a two trillion dollar tax cut - a forty percent reduction in corporate taxes - and this was after one trillion dollars in…
Reread it please.
"From Onlyfans to Bitcoins Scams, social media platforms has only exacerbated the issue."
Re: $750 a month, no questions asked, improved the lives of homeless people
#178The headline as written should surprise no-one. Anyone receiving free money would probably have their life improved along some dimension, even if it just means they're not doing as many dangerous things to get money to buy more drugs. The implicit assumption seems to be that giving homeless people money to improve their lives is inherently a moral good. Unlike many homeless advocates, I don't think it is a given that…
I think a lot of productive hardworking people's money has been spent on propaganda whose sole intention is to ensure that people equate homeless people to "mentally ill drug addicts" rather than, say, "private equity real estate buyup refugees"
* homeless because of their severe drug addiction * homeless because they can’t afford rent
Each group needs different solutions.
Re: $750 a month, no questions asked, improved the lives of homeless people
#179Earlier quoted context omitted.
> still being criminally targeted, so I returned the laptop in like new condition to him a week later. (The side reports regarding systemic/criminal abuse against at-risk folks is a separate but related matter.) Many "progressives" like to claim that punishing criminals is counterproductive, and the real solution to address crime is to fix the poverty, the "root cause". In reality, the opposite is true: crime is one…
What do you mean? Crime does not happen in a vacuum. The idea that people steal because it’s fun or commit fraud because they enjoy seeing their victims suffer is not supported by any sort of rigorous sociological or criminological understanding of social deviance. If you want to fix crime, you need to fix the social ills that cause people to turn to crime to begin with. Of course crime prevents people from improving…
There's been a spate of carjackings after enforcement went down recently where the objective of the teens as young as 13 and 12 stealing cars if to have fun rides and to show off to their friends.
There was a 13 year old girl who was carjacking.
https://midcitydcnews.com/2023/09/29/why-do-kids-carjack/
> “Some of them don’t have the whole criminal mindset; like they’ll do stupid things,” one officer explained, speaking anonymously, “Like they’ll steal a car around the corner and then stop at a 7-11, say ‘Hey, I want something to drink,’ —but [they] stole the car right there.”
> So, the high percentage of youth apprehended for carjacking is likely due to their risky behavior. Yet, the question remains. What is it that motivates kids to carjack?
> One answer is as old as human adolescence. Stealing a car to joyride is a cheap thrill.
> For Thrills > Most of the carjackings are “not done for any motive except just having fun,” said one sergeant, speaking at a public safety walk.
> “I mean they’re not stealing cars to sell parts, they’re just stealing cars to steal cars,” the officer added. Most cars, he pointed, are taken from one part of the city and later found parked in another quadrant.
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>A 2023 article in “The Annual Review of Criminology” points out that this is not new. Seventy years ago, the majority of motor vehicle thefts reported each year were the work of young males, stated the study, “many of whom did it for thrills.”
Video of teens discussing the (lack of) charges:
https://www.fox5dc.com/news/viral-video-dc-teens-discussing-...
Another story:
https://www.hillrag.com/2023/12/06/carjacking-is-no-big-deal...
> The teen and several accomplices had pulled an Uber driver out of his vehicle and drove away in it. A police pursuit followed, the teens jumped out after driving into a dead-end street, and fled on foot. Shawn “was trying to scramble back into the house,” McGilly recalled. Police arrested the teenager and carted him away.
> Overnight, McGilly researched restorative justice. He was torn. On one hand, he was upset over his foster child’s arrest. On the other, Shawn might finally suffer the consequences of his illegal actions. It could be a new beginning, McGilly hoped.
> The next morning, McGilly got a phone call from the public defender. The teen was being released; all charges dropped, the lawyer said.
> Shawn told his friends how nothing happened after his arrest, McGilly said. Worse, he introduced other kids living in the house, one as young as 13, to the world of carjacking, which his contemporaries refer to as “free cars.”
> “Kids take other kids for joy rides in stolen vehicles, which they call ‘free cars,’ then graduate to teaching them how to carjack. When they got caught, nothing serious happened. So it exploded,” McGilly said. “We’ve had twice as many carjackings in 2023 as last year, and it’s just because more and more kids were being introduced to it.”
And this isn't just a victimless crime, several victis have died, including a doctor that was run over by his own car that a carjacker was stealing.
Re: $750 a month, no questions asked, improved the lives of homeless people
#180Earlier quoted context omitted.
I broadly agree with you, I favor UBI for similar reasons, though I'd maybe frame it less as "very good vs. less good", vs. just acknowledging the enormous overhead costs of means-testing, to say nothing of the consequences when bureaucracy turns corrupt or Kafka-esque. But devil's advocate: is there any reason the same outcome couldn't be accomplished with a negative income tax instead, leveraging a bureaucratic inf…
How would the negative income tax work in practice? Do I need to wait a full year for my tax return to get a lump sum payment?
Of course, I feel obliged to bring up the Georgist objection: that either negative tax or UBI would need to contend with the problem of ground rents, lest landlords simply jack up the rent by the $X additional income that they know for a fact that everyone has.
Fun aside: Thomas Paine, the author of "Common Sense", made one of the earliest proposals for a citizen's dividend [0] (funded by ground rents), but going the other direction: a one-time lump sum during young adulthood, as a means to bootstrap a homestead or small business.