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This right here is why we adblock. Google needs to wake up and do something if they really want to stop people from using adblocks on Youtube, or their other properties.
YouTube offers an ad-free service. (yes, I know content providers can still embed their own promotions into their videos).
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At that point, the process is the interesting thing. Instead of an AI generating "cool" shapes and delicate carvings, a real person had to painstakingly carve out each tiny channel in the wood - a combination of art, skill, and patience. I can come watch them work each day until I see the transformation of a single block of wood into something functional or beautiful (or both!) On the other hand I might be able to pr…
The only time I go to see how ancient cultures lived without electricity and weaved their own clothes in in museums and tourist attractions. They’re also typically incredibly boring.
Compared to a "tribal wood carving designed by GPT" a real world piece of wood is, well, real. The novelty of everything wears off eventually so it won't matter if GPT could still show you nearly infinite carving designs. Without that being turned into actual physical objects by people, they are disposable bytes of data with no real meaning.
Believe it or not, there is a high brow Facebook where this is not a problem. I spend a lot of time on FB with my older friends where literature, film, poetry and science are topics and never see fake stuff. It's called out. That said, I can believe it's a problem on low brow Facebook, I just haven't seen it.
I have seen it. Nobody I know posts on Facebook anymore, so when Facebook is desperately trying to find content to fill the feed it turns to whatever it can come up with from random accounts. The apparent active group of friends you have is no doubt why you haven't seen it. That activity gives Facebook something to work with.
Interesting thought. I just dropped meta in my investment account since I needed the money for a trade. They had a good run, unfortunately I bought before the dip because of metaverse.
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We blew past that point around 2015.
Can you provide details of this watershed date?
But I don't think there's that much of a watershed date, more like a slow march that accelerated during the Trump era and then went into overdrive after 2020.
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It has never been realistic for people to find the truth, perhaps save those who are focused on a very narrow subject of truth and are dedicating their lives to the study. We have always relied on a collection of people with the aforementioned focus with some system of accreditation to tell us what is true. While far from perfect, I'm not sure a deluge of generated AI nonsense outside of the vetted channels, compleme…
>>It has never been realistic for people to find the truth, Rather strained definition of truth there. The truth that matters is a basic not-very-wrong version of what is happening. Examples: 1) The earth is roughly spheroidal. 2) NASA is a real space agency and landed people on the moon in 1969-1973. 3) The trails behind airplanes are condensation particles, not sprayed chemicals. 4) Vaccines are safe and effective,…
The standard model for electrical current is not true, but it is still useful in the vast, vast, vast majority of cases. True and useful are very different things. The conflation here is erroneous.
The average person is never going to understand what is true in any meaningful way, and even those who focus on certain truths are going to be focused on very specific truths, not all truths. There is only so much time in the day. For everything else they have to work with simplified models that may be quite disconnected from reality, but as long as they work for all practical purposes, who cares?
> And you are claiming that adding industrial-scale AI agents to the public 'conversation' at a scale never seen in history will have zero effect?
Conversation only happens when people realize they are working with a faulty model, so if conversation keeps happening then that means people are realizing that the model they currently have doesn't work. What do you think is going to happen with more noise? If people can't find a usable model in a not-so-noisy environment, do you think they will suddenly be able to find one in a noisier environment? That seems quite unlikely. In reality, the outcome is the same either way.
Maybe increased noise will turn more interest to the vetted environments and ignoring the noisy conversations, but if people are already not finding the vetted, the reality is that we are not likely to see change there either.
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This right here is why we adblock. Google needs to wake up and do something if they really want to stop people from using adblocks on Youtube, or their other properties.
They did do something: they blocked people using adblockers. Really we need some body like the UK ASA to say "you're liable for all these frauds, Google".
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IMO one of the main things ChatGPT offers is the ability to interact with the knowledge of the internet without wading through ads and SEO spam.
It certainly sounds like it's doing that. Though if you're an expert in a subject you ask it about, you can see when it transitions from "knowledge of the subject" to "Your uncle who made a living hustling pool and can tell a story made of nothing but whoppers of lies, sounding like the most honest person you've ever met." It's reasonable to assume it does the same thing over subjects you know less about.
And 100% of my YouTube ads are scams the last few weeks, many with deepfake fuckery going on. This whole side of the Web needs to be put down. The algo-feed ad-clearinghouse side. It’s a cesspit.
"And 100% of my YouTube ads are scams" Dude, I dream of my YouTube ads are being scams. I get greeted every time by a game ad. Some kind of dwarf dies on an apple being offered or something, and dying sounds like someone is throwing up. Please give me your scam ads.
When did ads stop even attempting to sell me anything? They don't even try anymore. Now they just show me thinly disguised images of dildos.
[1] Typical Example: https://i.imgur.com/sRu8s0I.png
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You eventually get to a scale where vetting is near impossible. Paying for premium brings them closer to a state where they don’t need advertising at all.
No, they can still vet, just doing so would make them less money. That is their problem, not yours or mine. If they can’t figure out a way to vet at scale, then they don’t deserve that scale. Most of us could be more profitable if we decided to act unethically or illegally. Serving scam adverts (and my YouTube and Google adverts appear to be substantially more scam than not) is Alphabet saying they care more about pr…
Wrong - if Google can't make the money they need on YouTube then it's our problem. They'll need to run more ads and they'll take more draconian measures to ensure you can't block their ads. You can better believe they'll further monetize their efforts by selling the needed tech to other web sites. We all lose in that scenario.
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This suggests the problem pretty well: https://xkcd.com/331/
no joke, when I close my eyes, the strange light patterns behind my eye lids are somehow pixelated now, i'm afraid LCDs altered cells in my retina somehow
