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Re: Ask HN: How do I make it out alive out of this?

#11
Move into a sharehouse with people you trust and stream yourself on twitch.

Move into a basement where you can't be surveilled (though your quality of life and sanity will likely drop even more).

Let the gang know you're broke or poorer than you let on. Take the target off your back.

Divest the funds and get a normal job where you're in a workplace 9-5 so that it's unlikey you will be bothered by random people.

Re: Ask HN: How do I make it out alive out of this?

#12
post #8

Talk to your family ASAP. You are either being followed as you said, or you are having a psychotic break, both scenarios are dangerous. You need help from someone you trust, usually family or very close friends.

I had spoken with my family, they think I have a psychosis, based on the fact that this is going on for so long.

Re: Ask HN: How do I make it out alive out of this?

#14

Move into a sharehouse with people you trust and stream yourself on twitch. Move into a basement where you can't be surveilled (though your quality of life and sanity will likely drop even more). Let the gang know you're broke or poorer than you let on. Take the target off your back. Divest the funds and get a normal job where you're in a workplace 9-5 so that it's unlikey you will be bothered by random people.

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Re: Ask HN: How do I make it out alive out of this?

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Could this be schizophrenia or another mental condition? If you’re certain you avoided 2 kidnapping attempts, can you get access to nearby security camera footage as evidence? Spending 5 months following you without overtly trying to extort you doesn’t sound typical for a criminal gang. Not impossible, given the sums involved, but patience and caution aren’t their hallmarks. Consider whether you are in the common age…

It most likely is and while your attempts to help them "logic" their way out of this are noble, I don't think it will help. "Gang stalking" is the term I've heard for it and Wikipedia has some details about it: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gang_stalking I hope the op can get some help with this.

My friend tried to set me up for a robbery. I realized this, avoided the assault, "friend" of 20 years stopped calling me at all since August, when before he was ringing me every week or two. This part is obvious.

A week later I started seeing strange people around my house in Germany. I wasn't paranoid at that point, I was sure that my friend will let it go, after I had seen him through. But then the followings started.

Re: Ask HN: How do I make it out alive out of this?

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post #10

That sounds terrifying. The being followed and snooped upon is actually an increasingly common phenomena, everywhere. You won’t like my answer I’m afraid, you are discovering how fragile the lie of modernity is. You would would be better off angry than scared. Be crazy, not complicit. A time for you to get serious (reign it all in.) Wealthy and famous people do not live normal lives, everyone is trying to take a litt…

It's rather hard for a single person, and a nerd at that, to be up against a proffesional gang. What the hell would I do anyway? And seriously, duck the money, if I had a choice of being rich and to live with the security, I would rather have normal life and be free.

Oh take things very seriously! I’m a nerd, I’ve been gang stalked (New York). Went on for years of varying degrees of threat. I gained about ten pounds of muscles and changed most social habits.

What I question is your “rationale.”

You are spoiled and coddled in a society which overlooks you. Being noticed is the untowardly phenomenon, not just your money. You would be only so lucky if you could pay them off. And that would be that.

Think productively not as prey. Have you received outward indication? Take responsibility for yourself as a man (advice I risk negative karma for offering).

Keep a journal (they're good for you anyway). Here you can log times and places. Most of Europe is now blanketed in cameras, any conversations with authorities should include documentation, especially written statements. Authorities can blow off your paranoid recount, their competence is judged through the lens of paperwork. Due diligence and all. Writing will also help you maintain your own coherent narrative when the truth is so murky others will simply suggest you need psychological help.

Wake up. The world you lived in and love is a comforting lie. Your vigilance and paranoid awareness will only draw you deeper into the modern psycho-drama. The “others”, whoever they are will never again leave you alone. Don’t be bitter or scared, be proactive.

Re: Ask HN: How do I make it out alive out of this?

#17

Could this be schizophrenia or another mental condition? If you’re certain you avoided 2 kidnapping attempts, can you get access to nearby security camera footage as evidence? Spending 5 months following you without overtly trying to extort you doesn’t sound typical for a criminal gang. Not impossible, given the sums involved, but patience and caution aren’t their hallmarks. Consider whether you are in the common age…

It most likely is and while your attempts to help them "logic" their way out of this are noble, I don't think it will help. "Gang stalking" is the term I've heard for it and Wikipedia has some details about it: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gang_stalking I hope the op can get some help with this.

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Re: Ask HN: How do I make it out alive out of this?

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post #12
post #8

Talk to your family ASAP. You are either being followed as you said, or you are having a psychotic break, both scenarios are dangerous. You need help from someone you trust, usually family or very close friends.

I had spoken with my family, they think I have a psychosis, based on the fact that this is going on for so long.

You should listen to them. Family is a critical component to getting appropriate care when one is having an episode of psychosis.

Re: Ask HN: How do I make it out alive out of this?

#19

Could this be schizophrenia or another mental condition? If you’re certain you avoided 2 kidnapping attempts, can you get access to nearby security camera footage as evidence? Spending 5 months following you without overtly trying to extort you doesn’t sound typical for a criminal gang. Not impossible, given the sums involved, but patience and caution aren’t their hallmarks. Consider whether you are in the common age…

Gang stalking is real and it can happen for both fun and profit. The technical details are very different to what even a smart person would “suppose.” Truth is not sane by society’s standards so we play along in confidence and call that convention.

Getting karma negged for sharing an unpopular or undesirable first hand account of truth is a frustration everyone “opening up” experiences.

Re: Ask HN: How do I make it out alive out of this?

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post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I had spoken with my family, they think I have a psychosis, based on the fact that this is going on for so long.

You should listen to them. Family is a critical component to getting appropriate care when one is having an episode of psychosis.

I don't havre a psychosis. I know what I had seen, my electronic equipment was hacked, I had been itimidated, the psychiatrist ruled out schizophrenia and psychosis. This is bloody real.
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