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An Empirical Study and Evaluation of Modern CAPTCHAs

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Re: An Empirical Study and Evaluation of Modern CAPTCHAs

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I’m assuming that he means that on (for example) Mac you can select text from any image and copy paste it. https://uk.pcmag.com/macos/138058/not-just-iphone-how-to-use...

100% correct, I assumed windows also let people do that given text recognition is apparently trivial now (to the extent it's annoying - trying to drag images and get text selection instead is annoying :-/)

Windows has gone sort of the opposite way, copy/paste is now often hindered if the engine recognizes the string to be sensitive or otherwise un-wise to copy to your clipboard.

I've had a few instances on Windows 11 and surrounding software where ctrl-C as well as the context menu entry for 'Copy' were greyed out for this reason when skimming through logfiles, presumably because there was something about the line that triggered the MS "that's a password!" regex; stuuuupid stuff.

Re: An Empirical Study and Evaluation of Modern CAPTCHAs

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post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I’m assuming that he means that on (for example) Mac you can select text from any image and copy paste it. https://uk.pcmag.com/macos/138058/not-just-iphone-how-to-use...

100% correct, I assumed windows also let people do that given text recognition is apparently trivial now (to the extent it's annoying - trying to drag images and get text selection instead is annoying :-/)

I think Windows now does it as well, but of course (as all things Windows) it works only in very few apps (forget Win32 ones, for example).

Re: An Empirical Study and Evaluation of Modern CAPTCHAs

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Someone will get rich turning this into a browser plug-in.

Nope, the moment this becomes a viable solution then spammers will pick it up, making captcha useless amost overnight.

Websites will very quickly pivot to alternative solutions like payment card verfification, etc.

Re: An Empirical Study and Evaluation of Modern CAPTCHAs

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I guess validating a payment card is going to be the next step to sign up for whatever. Don’t allow pre paid BINs and let’s go. Gonna be pretty miserable, however someone needs to find something as I currently would rather pay 0.01$ instead of solving a captcha. Especially the select all the bicycles; it’s a waste of life.

look up indian UPI. "validating payment card" and all that snazzy bits are error prone, old, archaic and cost a fortune to businesses.

in upi system, you are presented with a QR code or you input your UPI ID, you click pay and it gets through.

if you are worried about "fraud protection", why rely on an intermediary like ebay or credit card company and instead should take up with your bank or the seller or courts.

Re: An Empirical Study and Evaluation of Modern CAPTCHAs

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post #7

I think captchas disappear next year or so. Already was soft human determination.

What replaces captchas? Are there any not excessively burdensome tests that a standard issue human can pass that a machine somehow cannot? I'm assuming the "find all the bicycles" tests are also obsolete.

A market of human-oriented hardware keys, where the keys are only intended to be sold to actual human beings, with legal or otherwise cash bounties in place for people who can provide evidence of the keys being sold to or otherwise falling into the hands of non-human entities.

Re: An Empirical Study and Evaluation of Modern CAPTCHAs

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post #7

I think captchas disappear next year or so. Already was soft human determination.

What replaces captchas? Are there any not excessively burdensome tests that a standard issue human can pass that a machine somehow cannot? I'm assuming the "find all the bicycles" tests are also obsolete.

Nothing. People will have to realise that when you put things out for the world you put things out for the world.

Re: An Empirical Study and Evaluation of Modern CAPTCHAs

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post #8
post #7

I think captchas disappear next year or so. Already was soft human determination.

What replaces captchas? Are there any not excessively burdensome tests that a standard issue human can pass that a machine somehow cannot? I'm assuming the "find all the bicycles" tests are also obsolete.

> a standard issue human can pass that a machine somehow cannot?

may be the premise is wrong.

Why prevent non-humans from registering/using/viewing?

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