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Re: Location history data in Google Maps will soon be stored on user devices

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Post by fifteen1506 »

lrem wrote: post #103
shepherdjerred wrote: post #25

I disabled location history a while ago for privacy reasons. It was _so_ cool to look back and see where I went during trips, or where I was on a given day in college, but it felt weird that it could potentially be exposed to everyone in a leak. It's great to hear that Google is making such a big move. Google is not known for respecting user privacy.

> Google is not known for respecting user privacy. As a Googler, I’m always confused by this sentiment. We live in times where car manufacturers reserve the right to collect and sell any data the car can sense, up to and including your sex life. But somehow Google does not sell or share any of your data with anyone, makes it public how it fights a lot of law enforcement overreach, even outright exits markets and suns…

For me it's the the way RTB works. It leaks massive info.

Google is hostage from ad selling.

Re: Location history data in Google Maps will soon be stored on user devices

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Post by oakesm9 »

2Gkashmiri wrote: post #116
spacemanspiff01 wrote: post #109

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Travel within the shengen zone is a one, you may get entry and exit stamps, but if you travel Germany and France there is no record.

so..... if that is not recorded by the government themselves why do they expect you to record them?

If they’re applying for a visa or citizenship there’s likely requirements that you must have spent X% per year in the country and not abroad, even if it’s inside the schengen zone (or similar). Asking for the exact dates of your travel outside the country is likely the best way to do that

Re: Location history data in Google Maps will soon be stored on user devices

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Post by mcny »

fifteen1506 wrote: post #121
lrem wrote: post #103

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Google is not known for respecting user privacy. As a Googler, I’m always confused by this sentiment. We live in times where car manufacturers reserve the right to collect and sell any data the car can sense, up to and including your sex life. But somehow Google does not sell or share any of your data with anyone, makes it public how it fights a lot of law enforcement overreach, even outright exits markets and suns…

For me it's the the way RTB works. It leaks massive info. Google is hostage from ad selling.

My understanding is the adcopalypse happened because Google refused to share as much information with partners such as WPP and big spending customers such as Pepsi. I'm just saying as bad as things are with real time bidding, it could be much worse with a company such as Microsoft or Oracle setting industry standards.

Re: Location history data in Google Maps will soon be stored on user devices

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Post by mcny »

walthamstow wrote: post #86

This product is by far the biggest, most useful, hole in my privacy stance. I'd never have an internet-connected camera in my home for example but I get genuine use and joy out of Google keeping 10 years' record of everywhere I've been, including the night I first hooked up with my wife and we fell into a taxi at 1am. Neither of us can properly remember it, but Google does.

Yes, the biggest gripe was it should be opt in but now given that is true I'm ok with location history. The sad part is that it isn't Google we are worried about anymore but rather the government. :/

Re: Location history data in Google Maps will soon be stored on user devices

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Post by realusername »

lrem wrote: post #103
shepherdjerred wrote: post #25

I disabled location history a while ago for privacy reasons. It was _so_ cool to look back and see where I went during trips, or where I was on a given day in college, but it felt weird that it could potentially be exposed to everyone in a leak. It's great to hear that Google is making such a big move. Google is not known for respecting user privacy.

> Google is not known for respecting user privacy. As a Googler, I’m always confused by this sentiment. We live in times where car manufacturers reserve the right to collect and sell any data the car can sense, up to and including your sex life. But somehow Google does not sell or share any of your data with anyone, makes it public how it fights a lot of law enforcement overreach, even outright exits markets and suns…

> But somehow Google does not sell or share any of your data with anyone

Well, except we know about PRISM, so it's not even a theory anymore. And all their ad system tapping into the user data is pretty creepy as well.

I don't want to share any data to Google because of their poor track record and Google makes it as hard as humanely possible to not do that.

Re: Location history data in Google Maps will soon be stored on user devices

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Post by pinkgolem »

2Gkashmiri wrote: post #101
mFixman wrote: post #100

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It was priceless when filling my naturalisation application, which required me to write the exact dates of every international trip I did in the past 5 years. Also, it's great for trying to fit loose memories in dates and locations.

wouldnt your passport have that information as opposed to relying on third party information? so....... how would the government in this case "verify" your exact dates?

The government has its own log of boarder crossings which is not shared with you.

There is also a bunch of places where I only need national Id and no passport to travel there, I would assume it's the same for the US?

Re: Location history data in Google Maps will soon be stored on user devices

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Post by pinkgolem »

swagempire wrote: post #107
mFixman wrote: post #102

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Many countries don't stamp your passport anymore, many that do don't put a date, and even if I relied on that information stamps are messy, out of order, and fading. The government probably has a list of international flights I've taken somewhere. I honestly don't think they will use it they probably don't deny citizenships because I missed a couple of trips (unlike, say, not reporting frequent trips to North Korea).…

Really? Which ones? Even if I get an e-visa, I get an in and out stamp. Not having these would invalidate the whole reason for having a passport.

As a German, you do not even need a passport to travel to a bunch of places.. turkey, tunesia, agypt, Monaco

Then there is the whole topic of oversee territorys... Not sure if those count as international territory but also no passport required..

Re: Location history data in Google Maps will soon be stored on user devices

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Post by amf12 »

dns_snek wrote: post #119
lrem wrote: post #103

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Google is not known for respecting user privacy. As a Googler, I’m always confused by this sentiment. We live in times where car manufacturers reserve the right to collect and sell any data the car can sense, up to and including your sex life. But somehow Google does not sell or share any of your data with anyone, makes it public how it fights a lot of law enforcement overreach, even outright exits markets and suns…

I mean, really? Let's see, Google is trying to force through Web Environment Integrity which would eventually obliterate any remaining semblance of privacy on the web, it has historically disrespected GDPR, it's trying to work around GDPR with a so-called "Privacy Sandbox" which is anything but, it's trying to sunset Manifest v3 which will take power away from Chrome users, just to name a few current & recent develop…

> Google is trying to force through Web Environment Integrity which would eventually obliterate any remaining semblance of privacy on the web,

How so?

Re: Location history data in Google Maps will soon be stored on user devices

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Post by 2Gkashmiri »

oakesm9 wrote: post #122
2Gkashmiri wrote: post #116

Earlier quoted context omitted.

so..... if that is not recorded by the government themselves why do they expect you to record them?

If they’re applying for a visa or citizenship there’s likely requirements that you must have spent X% per year in the country and not abroad, even if it’s inside the schengen zone (or similar). Asking for the exact dates of your travel outside the country is likely the best way to do that

still my question remains, so what you give 8 days instead of actually really 12 days spent inside a country. will that affect your application?

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Post by appplication »

swagempire wrote: post #107
mFixman wrote: post #102

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Many countries don't stamp your passport anymore, many that do don't put a date, and even if I relied on that information stamps are messy, out of order, and fading. The government probably has a list of international flights I've taken somewhere. I honestly don't think they will use it they probably don't deny citizenships because I missed a couple of trips (unlike, say, not reporting frequent trips to North Korea).…

Really? Which ones? Even if I get an e-visa, I get an in and out stamp. Not having these would invalidate the whole reason for having a passport.

Hong Kong provides you with a small paper slip rather than a passport stamp
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