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that sounds ripe to get spammed, since the superset of things to be filtered is borderline infinite when it is opt-in
Google Groups ending support for Usenet
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Re: Google Groups ending support for Usenet
#52The nightmare is over? I've used Usenet for years. Most serious users filter out any post originating from G2 to do away with Google posts. It's been a huge source of spam and annoyance. Usenet gets better as it gets smaller, honestly. Most groups are carcasses these days, but several have regular use. comp.misc, misc.news.internet.discuss, and sci.misc are active. Several groups in the comp* hierarchy are active. Th…
Is there a broader tutorial for this, newsgroups mostly missed me, I don't really grok how they fit into the greater internet or how their hosting works or why you have to pay a separate provider
>I don't really grok how they fit into the greater internet or how their hosting works or why you have to pay a separate provider
In much the same way that you need a specialized email client to use IMAP/SMTP, you need a specialized client that speaks NNTP to access usenet.
The providers are heterogeneous but usually are basically beefy servers connected to fat pipes to handle the massive volume of traffic, which is why you typically need to pay for access.
Re: Google Groups ending support for Usenet
#53Earlier quoted context omitted.
I see; I was not aware that there is a specific connection between Nazis and the "brownshirt" term, though it is obviously a reference to some kind of uniform.
Too late, you're On The Record™. And this one goes into your permanent record, no getting out of this blunder.
To the contrary, they did the right thing by admitting their ignorance in not knowing that Brownshirt refers to a group of Nazis. So the record shows that they were willing to learn. That's something.
Re: Google Groups ending support for Usenet
#54This post brought my down a rabbit hole of early internet technologies, leading to a search for the two PC newsmagazines I used to read for free as a teenager in my Bay Area suburb in the late 90's, which ended at this Usenet post hosted by... Google.
https://groups.google.com/g/alt.comp.hardware.pc-homebuilt/c...
Re: Google Groups ending support for Usenet
#55Earlier quoted context omitted.
*Only to grammar nazis.
No, the definition of Brownshirt is pretty unambiguous: https://encyclopedia.ushmm.org/content/en/article/the-sa There isn't an alternative grammatical parsing that changes that.
I hope you realize that you have given a link to an encyclopedia to show the definition of a word. The fifth edition of the American Heritage Dictionary, published in 2011, already gave a second definition of brownshirt:
>A racist, especially a violent, right-wing one.[0]
Oxford Dictionary has an even broader definition[1]
As noted by other users, "brownshirt" is also used to describe "anyone in authority."[2]
I actually debated writing "pedantism nazi" instead of "grammar nazi" because I knew you would make that exact argument that grammar is not relevant. I also considered "semantics nazi" but decided against it as semantics is "the study of meanings"[3], but it is clear that you are actually more concerned with creating records of fault and "ignorance",[4] while you allow yourself to define GP's transgression in vague terms like "equate" meaning anything from regarding as equal or equivalent to "comparable"[5]. You claim that the meaning is unambiguous yet this nonexistent second meaning is so prevalent that GP had never heard of the first one.
[0] https://ahdictionary.com/word/search.html?q=Brownshirt
[1] https://www.oed.com/search/dictionary/?scope=Entries&q=Brown...
[2] https://urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=the%20Brownshirt...
[3] https://merriam-webster.com/dictionary/semantics
Re: Google Groups ending support for Usenet
#56Part of the background for this is that over the past month or more, Usenet has been under an unprecedented spam attack from Google Groups that Google isn't doing anything about. People have resorted to filtering everything coming from Google Groups, with a white list, and there are voices calling for de-peering of Google Groups from the Usenet federation.
And it is also /interesting/ that the evil one's [1] blog post mentions "and spam" as a reason for this, but fully fails to mention that 99.8% of the "spam" flood is coming from their own system. [1]google
We're getting to the point that that footnote is superfluous. Google is a real problem.
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#57Earlier quoted context omitted.
In this context it means moderators or people behaving like authority. https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=the%20Browns...
There is only one definition of Brownshirt, despite contemporary attempts to ameliorate it. Here it is: https://encyclopedia.ushmm.org/content/en/article/the-sa
Oh, in the future, if and when I use the word it will be with a capital B, and it will definitely be a Nazi reference.
When I don't intend a Nazi reference, I will pick a different color of shirt, like green or blue.
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#58Earlier quoted context omitted.
No I'm not; I just don't associate "brownshirt" with Nazis. In my mind, I always see someone handing out parking tickets or something. It also conveys low status. Rules are made by higher status people in white shirts, but interpreted rigidly by lower status in brown/green/blue/...
No, brownshirt is most definitely a Nazi thing, paramilitary thugs. If you've been throwing that term around for a while, this might explain any odd reactions you've got.
No, I haven't; I can probably count on two fingers the number of times I have used it in thirty years?
Re: Google Groups ending support for Usenet
#59The nightmare is over? I've used Usenet for years. Most serious users filter out any post originating from G2 to do away with Google posts. It's been a huge source of spam and annoyance. Usenet gets better as it gets smaller, honestly. Most groups are carcasses these days, but several have regular use. comp.misc, misc.news.internet.discuss, and sci.misc are active. Several groups in the comp* hierarchy are active. Th…
You think it's worth getting into Usenet for new people?
Re: Google Groups ending support for Usenet
#60Earlier quoted context omitted.
If you see the spam it's already in your client, so yes. You don't see spam, if it was filtered upstream from you. The server admins try though. This latest Google assault kept people busy.
How do you know that what was filtered was spam and not wrongthink ?
Wrongthink doesn't use a robot to post 20,000 copies?