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Re: Google Groups ending support for Usenet

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> 2) There is no administrative ostracism. Nobody gets kicked out by brownshirts for expressing their view. To be clear, you are on record as equating content moderation on private platforms with Nazism: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sturmabteilung#:~:text=The%20S... .

*Only to grammar nazis.

Re: Google Groups ending support for Usenet

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post #19

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> 2) There is no administrative ostracism. Nobody gets kicked out by brownshirts for expressing their view. To be clear, you are on record as equating content moderation on private platforms with Nazism: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sturmabteilung#:~:text=The%20S... .

In this context it means moderators or people behaving like authority. https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=the%20Browns...

Re: Google Groups ending support for Usenet

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Can Google just fucking kill this?

Literally all my recruiter spam is coming from groups. Even when I worked at Google internally I raised a ticket with full info of what’s going on and they still haven’t fixed it.

(Yes I have the “can’t add me to groups” button on).

Re: Google Groups ending support for Usenet

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> nobody gets kicked out by brownshirts for expressing their view. What about spam? Is the expectation that it's your obligation to filter it client-side?

If you see the spam it's already in your client, so yes.

You don't see spam, if it was filtered upstream from you.

The server admins try though. This latest Google assault kept people busy.

Re: Google Groups ending support for Usenet

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post #19

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> 2) There is no administrative ostracism. Nobody gets kicked out by brownshirts for expressing their view. To be clear, you are on record as equating content moderation on private platforms with Nazism: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sturmabteilung#:~:text=The%20S... .

I see; I was not aware that there is a specific connection between Nazis and the "brownshirt" term, though it is obviously a reference to some kind of uniform.

Re: Google Groups ending support for Usenet

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post #23

Can Google just fucking kill this? Literally all my recruiter spam is coming from groups. Even when I worked at Google internally I raised a ticket with full info of what’s going on and they still haven’t fixed it. (Yes I have the “can’t add me to groups” button on).

Internal Google tickets have If you know anyone still there, just have a peek at all the internally opened tickets about bricked Android phones. Their processes are...messy.

Re: Google Groups ending support for Usenet

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post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sounds like the barbarians are sacking Rome. What happened to mighty Google's thirst for blood and will to dominate the Internet? It feels like they've just started accepting being helpless to stop all this spam.

How much money is Google making from Usenet support?

It doesn't matter how much money USENET makes one company, what matters is what it represents. Surrendering USENET entirely to abuse means we're losing one of the last vestiges of the ARPANET. It brings great shame and dishonor that Google won't fight for it.

Re: Google Groups ending support for Usenet

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The nightmare is over? I've used Usenet for years. Most serious users filter out any post originating from G2 to do away with Google posts. It's been a huge source of spam and annoyance. Usenet gets better as it gets smaller, honestly. Most groups are carcasses these days, but several have regular use. comp.misc, misc.news.internet.discuss, and sci.misc are active. Several groups in the comp* hierarchy are active. Th…

Is there a broader tutorial for this, newsgroups mostly missed me, I don't really grok how they fit into the greater internet or how their hosting works or why you have to pay a separate provider

These two wikipedia articles are a start:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usenet

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nntp

As for "why pay separate provider" -- that would be because circa 2000 most ISP's dropped offering Usenet access for their customers as part of the deal, which created a market for the paid providers.

But, you don't /have/ to pay:

https://greycoder.com/best-free-usenet-servers/

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