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Re: Proton Mail gets a desktop app for encrypted email and calendar

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Post by ttt3ts »

Night_Thastus wrote: post #78
dangond wrote: post #8

Out of curiosity, what makes people prefer desktop apps for mail over just visiting the browser version? The idea of downloading a desktop app for something I can do in the browser makes no sense to me. At least on mobile, the ergonomics of apps tend to make the experience better than the mobile-web version.

For me, I generally prefer dedicated apps to a browser if possible. They tend to be more functional and less burdened down by being general-purpose software. It's also a more controlled environment. I tend to run a lot of custom browser settings, mountains of addons, etc. I know that my desktop mail app won't be affected by those.

Same,fyi, chrome's --app combined with --user-data-dir is amazing for this without having to install a bunch of different electon apps.

Re: Proton Mail gets a desktop app for encrypted email and calendar

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Post by bravetraveler »

Night_Thastus wrote: post #79
bravetraveler wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I use a mail client for offline access, backups, and faster search I stopped using Proton largely because the bridge was unreliable - this may have kept me around My browser does too much already, too. I appreciate actual applications that have an identity beyond a favicon

Weird - bridge has worked flawlessly for me for the last couple of years. I use Thunderbird with it. They had clear instructions on how to configure it in just a couple of clicks and I haven't had to mess with it since then. My ONLY complaint is that if I launch Thunderbird before Bridge has finished, it won't connect. That can be fixed by waiting first, or opening the app on a schedule, or just closing and re-openin…

I also use Thunderbird - setup/controlling the startup order was the easy part.

Sometimes getting messages is where it fell apart for me. I'd be connected, the bridge would be, yet I wouldn't see messages every now and then.

Weird indeed!

Re: Proton Mail gets a desktop app for encrypted email and calendar

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Post by teekert »

jacobroyquebec wrote: post #65
teekert wrote: post #17

I love Proton, I use them for my business. Sure they are missing some things. The calendar is too basic, no widget. Drive does not have a Linux client and no rsync support or anything useful. And now there is no desktop app For Linux (it's not electron?). BUT, I love the webapp and they bring a steady stream of nice improvements, and what currently exists works very well. They are a company with the right values so I…

FYI, it's fairly easy to have Proton Drive on linux using rclone [0], for push/pull/sync. [0] https://rclone.org/protondrive/

That's cool but it's hacky (reverse engineered from the open source app), would be cool if they had an official API!

Re: Proton Mail gets a desktop app for encrypted email and calendar

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Post by przmk »

jorvi wrote: post #29
przmk wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Telegram Desktop is fortunately not an electron app. It's Qt.

Thanks, edited! I must admit it / its performance feels very "webby"

That's strange. It's by far the snappiest, modern IM app that I've used.

Re: Proton Mail gets a desktop app for encrypted email and calendar

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Post by DavideNL »

tlivolsi wrote: post #74
mortallywounded wrote: post #64

I've been using Proton for my businesses for years. I have a legacy visionary plan that is _very_ generous based on current limits/prices. I don't have any plans on going anywhere else! My only gripe has been searching email is a pain.. you need to download/index the data locally (due to encryption on the server), and the search quality isn't great. I am confident they will improve the search algorithm/filters in tim…

They now have an option to enable searching message body text if you click the search bar in the web client.

yes, and to use it:

> ”you need to download/index the data locally (due to encryption on the server)”

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Post by carlosjobim »

fauigerzigerk wrote: post #70
carlosjobim wrote: post #53

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If you're on an Intel MacBook, using YouTube Music is a miserable experience. As for YouTube.com itself, it's okay, but FreeTube is significantly more responsive. VSCode was more laggy than native competitors on my machine. Especially when selecting text. Maybe our tolerance for lag is different? I know a ton of people swear by VSCode, but when an app has bad latency on basic interface functions it just throws me off…

>VSCode was more laggy than native competitors on my machine. VSCode has become really fast in the last year or so. Previously, I sometimes used other text editors for a quick edit, but now any lag that VSCode may still have has fallen below my personal sensory threshold. I dread the situations where I have to resort to Xcode. It's native, but it's unbelievably slow and crashes more often than any software I have use…

Maybe it's time to give it another try, then. It was about two years ago that I gave it a test ride.

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Post by justaj »

grammers wrote: post #52
teekert wrote: post #17

I love Proton, I use them for my business. Sure they are missing some things. The calendar is too basic, no widget. Drive does not have a Linux client and no rsync support or anything useful. And now there is no desktop app For Linux (it's not electron?). BUT, I love the webapp and they bring a steady stream of nice improvements, and what currently exists works very well. They are a company with the right values so I…

Tutanota has got a Linux app, and the Android app is available on F-Droid. I love what both companies are trying to achieve with building private ecosystems, but for me Linux must always come first. Everyone who loves privacy has switched to Linux by now.

Tutanota also supports notifications on non-GCF phones like GrapheneOS, while ProtonMail unfortunately does not.

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Post by Night_Thastus »

bravetraveler wrote: post #82
Night_Thastus wrote: post #79

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Weird - bridge has worked flawlessly for me for the last couple of years. I use Thunderbird with it. They had clear instructions on how to configure it in just a couple of clicks and I haven't had to mess with it since then. My ONLY complaint is that if I launch Thunderbird before Bridge has finished, it won't connect. That can be fixed by waiting first, or opening the app on a schedule, or just closing and re-openin…

I also use Thunderbird - setup/controlling the startup order was the easy part. Sometimes getting messages is where it fell apart for me. I'd be connected, the bridge would be, yet I wouldn't see messages every now and then. Weird indeed!

I don't think that's a normal experience. It may be worth contacting Proton about it and asking for support, assuming you still pay for service. May be an easy fix. Or it could be on TB's end.

I'd also check if you have any unusual network configuration (PiHole, router settings, etc) and see if those could be interfering somehow.

Though since it's intermittent it may be hard for them to track down.

Re: Proton Mail gets a desktop app for encrypted email and calendar

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Post by bravetraveler »

Night_Thastus wrote: post #88
bravetraveler wrote: post #82

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I also use Thunderbird - setup/controlling the startup order was the easy part. Sometimes getting messages is where it fell apart for me. I'd be connected, the bridge would be, yet I wouldn't see messages every now and then. Weird indeed!

I don't think that's a normal experience. It may be worth contacting Proton about it and asking for support, assuming you still pay for service. May be an easy fix. Or it could be on TB's end. I'd also check if you have any unusual network configuration (PiHole, router settings, etc) and see if those could be interfering somehow. Though since it's intermittent it may be hard for them to track down.

Thank you for the suggestion - if I were still a customer I likely would reach out with your guidance.

I didn't investigate much... it was happening at a bad time where I really needed to stay on top of active conversations for a move.

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