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Re: OpenCola

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Ingredients located at [0], full recipe at [1]. If true, it's interesting. I don't have these oils on hand but seemingly they wouldn't be too difficult to procure. According to the This American Life episode [2] where they made a batch, the taste testers were able to detect real Coke 28 out of 30 times. So maybe it's not a perfect match! Still, it's cool. 0: https://github.com/cognitom/OpenCola/blob/master/recipe.mar…

I'd think that a cola recipe ought to at least have cola-nut extract, which this recipe does not.

"These days, the Coca-Cola recipe is a closely guarded secret. But it's said to no longer contain kola nut extract, relying instead on artificial imitations to achieve the flavour." [0]

[0] https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20160922-the-nut-that-hel...

Re: OpenCola

#72
post #3

It's really tough seeing the amount of sugar that this recipe has. Really puts things into perspective, compared to simply drinking the end product from a can.

A can of coke has almost 10 sugar cubes, it's pretty silly. The only winning move is not to play. https://www.zmescience.com/other/sugar-26072011/

After drinking Coke for about 32 years, I switched to Coke Zero (I have cystic fibrosis and scarring of the pancreas eventually leads to diabetes). After 14 years, drinking a regular Coke tastes like I'm drinking maple syrup.

I'm aware that aspartame isn't ideal, but I'm not brave enough to give up sweet-tasting beverages yet. :-)

Re: OpenCola

#73

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I would love to do a blind taste test. It could also be the aluminum can. Even if a placebo, it's still true - I can't stand canned coke. I can't drink it, the taste to me is horrible.

If you had the energy to do so, you could try to replicate his results, i.e. buy a Mexican Coke, an American Glass Coke, and an American Can Coke, and decant them all into glasses or cups at home, then see if you can taste the difference. If all your brain/tongue perceives as horrible is the taste of the aluminum can, you could always switch to buying Coke in glass bottles, which are more expensive than cans but stil…

Also need to add McDonald's fountain Coke for sake of science.

Re: OpenCola

#74
post #30

OpenCola always gets passed around but for me it just represents the tip of a very frustrating iceberg. There are tons of flavor formulations I'd love to know - not because I'm a chemist or a food scientist but just out of sheer curiosity and the desire to learn how stuff is made. I wish people would research other flavors, e.g.: * Bubblegum * Tutti Fruitti * Irn-Bru

IrnBru is made from girders: https://youtu.be/SD3LippIN40?si=f7Bkqn9cmUNKD3PW

Re: OpenCola

#75
post #53

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I believe, but could be wrong, that the differentiating factor is that coke from Mexico is made with sugar.

I learned/realized recently it's only because of the US's deeply entrentched subsidies on corn that allows for HFCS to be cheaper than sugar and why it's so heavily used in processed foods.

Same with ethanol gas. If not for the corn subsidies, it wouldn't be cheaper. Also much more gas is burned growing/harvesting the corn and electrical powering the process than is saved in emissions (there was a great piece on HN of this some time ago), so it's a net negative to the environment. It's so dumb it hurts, but Iowa is an early presidential election state, so good luck finding someone who will go in and tell those early voters that they're gonna slow the gravy train...

Re: OpenCola

#76

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I would love to do a blind taste test. It could also be the aluminum can. Even if a placebo, it's still true - I can't stand canned coke. I can't drink it, the taste to me is horrible.

Most soda is too sweet for me. I really enjoyed Club Mate, quite a bit more refreshing and way less sweet than Coca-Cola.

> way less sweet than Coca-Cola.

And twice as much caffeine per ml.

Re: OpenCola

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Coke is still ~40 grams of sugar per 12oz can. That's insanity and a quick way to give yourself diabeetus. No matter how bad you think artificial zero calorie sweeteners are, they are nothing compared to the damage that too much sugar does to your body.

I'm gonna poke at this only because some people take the anti-sugar message too far and use it to rationalize away the stuff that's really killing them. Refined sugar is certainly not good for you, but a 12oz can of Coke - is 140 calories. That's about 6% of the recommended daily caloric intake. Calories RDI is about 2000-2500 for most people. But most Americans eat more like 3000-3500 and don't exercise. You can dri…

RDI for added sugar itself is 24-36 grams which a single 12oz can of Coke exceeds. Measuring in Calories, it's recommended to limit daily intake from added sugar to below 100-150 Calorie. [0]

% of Caloric RDI isn't the whole story. A can of Coke is less of a blip on the radar as you suggested.

[0] https://www.hsph.harvard.edu/nutritionsource/carbohydrates/a...

Re: OpenCola

#78
post #30

OpenCola always gets passed around but for me it just represents the tip of a very frustrating iceberg. There are tons of flavor formulations I'd love to know - not because I'm a chemist or a food scientist but just out of sheer curiosity and the desire to learn how stuff is made. I wish people would research other flavors, e.g.: * Bubblegum * Tutti Fruitti * Irn-Bru

IrnBru is made from girders: https://youtu.be/SD3LippIN40?si=f7Bkqn9cmUNKD3PW

They replaced the sugar with aspartame due to UK sugar tax and what made IrnBru is gone.

I miss Dr Pepper too, with aspartame or that other chemic it's just not the same.

Re: OpenCola

#79

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I would love to do a blind taste test. It could also be the aluminum can. Even if a placebo, it's still true - I can't stand canned coke. I can't drink it, the taste to me is horrible.

If you had the energy to do so, you could try to replicate his results, i.e. buy a Mexican Coke, an American Glass Coke, and an American Can Coke, and decant them all into glasses or cups at home, then see if you can taste the difference. If all your brain/tongue perceives as horrible is the taste of the aluminum can, you could always switch to buying Coke in glass bottles, which are more expensive than cans but stil…

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Re: OpenCola

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you had the energy to do so, you could try to replicate his results, i.e. buy a Mexican Coke, an American Glass Coke, and an American Can Coke, and decant them all into glasses or cups at home, then see if you can taste the difference. If all your brain/tongue perceives as horrible is the taste of the aluminum can, you could always switch to buying Coke in glass bottles, which are more expensive than cans but stil…

> If all your brain/tongue perceives as horrible is the taste of the aluminum can, you could always switch to buying Coke in glass bottles Or just pour it in a glass?

It may again be placebo effect, but I can still taste the difference in bottled water poured into my steel water bottle and my usual filtered tap water.

I also can't stand plastic bottled sodas, and can tell they've been sitting in one even if drank out of something else after opening.

I fear the bottling/canning process and length of time spent in it gives it a bit of a whiskey-barrel style finishing taste alteration.

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