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Re: Google Imagen 2

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Post by herval »

boh wrote: post #77

I think the competition for text to image services is over and open source, stable diffusion won. It doesn't matter how detailed (or whatever counts as "better") corporate text-to-image products get, stable diffusion is good enough which really is good enough. Unlike the corporate offerings, open source txt2img doesn't have random restrictions (no its not just porn at this point) and actually allows for additional sc…

I also think it's over, but I don't see how Stable Diffusion won anything. If something, I see people flocking en masse to dalle3/google/amazon/whatever API is easy to integrate in one side, and consumers paying for Adobe & Canva in the other.

Stable Diffusion is the Linux-on-the-desktop of diffusion models IMO

(I agree w/ your comment on trusting Google - pretty sure they'll just phase this off eventually anyway, so I wouldn't bother trying it)

Re: Google Imagen 2

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Post by pphysch »

rvnx wrote: post #73
pphysch wrote: post #69

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Name a corporation that hasn't embellished their corporate tech demos.

OpenAI

From their last product release:

> As always, you are in control of your data with ChatGPT.

Which is a flat-out lie. You can allegedly opt-out of them using your data for training, but you are still sending your data to a private corporation for processing/etc. which makes it totally unsuitable for handling sensitive or restricted data.

Re: Google Imagen 2

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Post by herval »

modeless wrote: post #44

I don't see any examples of the things existing models really struggle with, like text or counting things.

there's literally a full section on that page called "Text rendering support" (with examples)

Re: Google Imagen 2

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Post by rvnx »

pphysch wrote: post #82
rvnx wrote: post #73

Earlier quoted context omitted.

OpenAI

From their last product release: > As always, you are in control of your data with ChatGPT. Which is a flat-out lie. You can allegedly opt-out of them using your data for training, but you are still sending your data to a private corporation for processing/etc. which makes it totally unsuitable for handling sensitive or restricted data.

Fair enough.

Re: Google Imagen 2

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Post by modeless »

herval wrote: post #83
modeless wrote: post #44

I don't see any examples of the things existing models really struggle with, like text or counting things.

there's literally a full section on that page called "Text rendering support" (with examples)

The link was changed since I posted my comment, and it's been two hours so I can no longer edit or delete my no-longer-relevant comment. Glad to see the text examples in this link.

Re: Google Imagen 2

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Post by nprateem »

boh wrote: post #77

I think the competition for text to image services is over and open source, stable diffusion won. It doesn't matter how detailed (or whatever counts as "better") corporate text-to-image products get, stable diffusion is good enough which really is good enough. Unlike the corporate offerings, open source txt2img doesn't have random restrictions (no its not just porn at this point) and actually allows for additional sc…

> Why bother using a product from a company that is notorious for failing to commit to most of their services, when you can run something which produces output that is pretty close (and maybe better) and is free to run and change and train?

Because it costs $0.02 per image instead of $1000 on a graphics card and endless buggering around to set up.

Re: Google Imagen 2

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Post by herval »

nprateem wrote: post #88
boh wrote: post #77

I think the competition for text to image services is over and open source, stable diffusion won. It doesn't matter how detailed (or whatever counts as "better") corporate text-to-image products get, stable diffusion is good enough which really is good enough. Unlike the corporate offerings, open source txt2img doesn't have random restrictions (no its not just porn at this point) and actually allows for additional sc…

> Why bother using a product from a company that is notorious for failing to commit to most of their services, when you can run something which produces output that is pretty close (and maybe better) and is free to run and change and train? Because it costs $0.02 per image instead of $1000 on a graphics card and endless buggering around to set up.

you can use stable diffusion on many hosted services out there (eg Replicate) for fractions of a cent. 2 cents per image is absurdly expensive, they're anchoring that on the dalle3 price, which likely won't go down because there's little incentive to do so, specially from their stakeholders/partners (shutterstock, etc)

Re: Google Imagen 2

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Post by [deleted] »

fullsend wrote: post #25
fooker wrote: post #20

Wow, Google has really become the IBM of 2005s. All flashy demos, 'call sales' to try anything.

According to Fiona Cicconi, Google’s chief people officer, Google employed 30,000 managers before the recent layoffs. The hard truth is Google needs a Twitter style culling. Take all those billions you're burning and give it to people with a builder mentality, not career sheeple. Unfortunately the same executives who would oversee this are the ones who need to be culled first.

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