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I almost get the impression that the act of gathering of evidence for the supposed CFAA violation is intended as a form of extrajudicial punishment.

Yes, CFAA raids are definitely done as a form of extrajudicial punishment. When the FBI raided me at 6am with guns drawn in ~2010 they never indicted me, never charged me with anything. But they did steal all my computers and electronics, and all my flatmate's computers and electronics, and got me kicked out of my apartment (which they trashed). That morning they raided ~100 people across the US as part of a giant wa…

I'd love to hear more about your story, if you're willing. If not willing, feel free to disregard.

Were you uploading stuff to wikileaks? If so, what kind of stuff?

Were you donating to WL?

Did you have any "classified" data in your posession?

What did the warrant say about the target, the reasonable suspicion, etc?

Do you have a copy of the warrant you'd be willing to share?

Re: Google Promises Unlimited Storage; Cancels; Tells Journalist Life's Work Deleted

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Google charges USD 0,15/GB for egress traffic out of GCP. That's USD 36864 for 240TB. Am I right? EDIT: Actually egress seems to be 0,08. So roughly half of what I wrote.

Egress charges probably don't apply (or not directly; you might have to pay them anyway if the only way to download fast enough is to run your script in GCP), but if they did there are services which do the migration for you and take the hit on the egress. https://www.backblaze.com/cloud-storage/features/cloud-migra...

Re: Google Promises Unlimited Storage; Cancels; Tells Journalist Life's Work Deleted

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> The actual headline is slightly less inflammatory: "Google Promises Unlimited Cloud Storage; Then Cancels Plan; Then Tells Journalist His Life’s Work Will Be Deleted Without Enough Time To Transfer The Data" Correct. 7 days is not enough time to stream >200TB of data, let alone find a place to stream it to. This puts a human being in a crisis position. He doesn't need to just find someone willing to store his data.…

Crisis (!?) is a bit dramatic. Google response isn't correct but everyone here has there hands a bit dirty. Storing 237 Tb on an unlimited server - the individual clearly knew they were taking advantage of a system and probably should have been ready for some kind of remedy.

Also they've been giving out these warnings for months. I'm sympathetic to the guy with the seemingly abusive legal actions from Fox but this storage problem did not just spring from nothing into the final crisis stage.

We had to move a bunch of data off gdrive too, which did little for our opinion of Google's business customer support and was a PITA I didn't need, but the first warnings were in 2002 some time and we were nowhere near as egregious in usage as some of the/r/datahoarder crowd that had multiple petabytes hiding in the lowest cost Gsuite legacy pricing.

Re: Google Promises Unlimited Storage; Cancels; Tells Journalist Life's Work Deleted

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> People really need to understand that Google is a garbage company that can't be relied on for anything. Normally the response to this is, yes, it sucks, but you're not paying Google to host your data. However, it looks like this journalist did pay Google to host his data. So this immediately puts it in a worse category.

That whole "you're not paying"'thing is really a straw man at this point too. When Google was young and eager to be a good netizen I'd have agreed with that and said it was all part of helping to make the web better. But they've been entrenched for years now, completely dominate so many aspects of the web and get plenty of value out of even their free users. Given their size and stranglehold on just about everything,…

> But they've been entrenched for years now, completely dominate so many aspects of the web and get plenty of value out of even their free users.

That's why I store only 1 file on my Google Drive - a 10 GB encrypted blob (TrueCrypt partition).

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Keep in mind this person was paying $100 per month to host >250 TiB (which anywhere else will cost >$1000 per month).

The moral of the story is that if your usage of an unlimited plan costs the company more than what you are paying, then you shouldn't be surprised when you get kicked off.

Re: Google Promises Unlimited Storage; Cancels; Tells Journalist Life's Work Deleted

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Google offered "as much storage as you need" for the Workspace account, without attaching a condition on a required number of seats. It's not a loophole if a customer takes them up on the offer. I'm usually sympathetic with businesses who failed to appreciate how much power very few power users really have, but this is Google we're talking about. Their sales and legal department is larger than 90% of tech companies.…

This is like getting kicked out of McDonalds for ordering a small order of french fries and instead eating 400 ketchup packets. Things are free when people don't abuse it. Just be normal. Jesus.

Captain: 'Tis no man. 'Tis a remorseless eatin' machine! Six bells! Time for closin'!

Homer: But the sign said "All you can eat!"

Re: Google Promises Unlimited Storage; Cancels; Tells Journalist Life's Work Deleted

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Probably it means they want to compress and dedupe and you cannot compress data after it has been encrypted.

Wait what? I'm a confessed ignoramus but this does not make sense to me. Encrypted data is bits and bytes like everything else. You can compress it. (Maybe not as well as unencrypted text, but still.)

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Re: Google Promises Unlimited Storage; Cancels; Tells Journalist Life's Work Deleted

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This is like getting kicked out of McDonalds for ordering a small order of french fries and instead eating 400 ketchup packets. Things are free when people don't abuse it. Just be normal. Jesus.

What if McDonalds is offering unlimited fries with any hamburger? Would they be reasonable to kick you after eating 5 pounds?

Not if they were explicitly offering unlimited fries.

In that case they would be indisputably unreasonable, in its dictionary definition of “having no basis in reason or fact”, where reason and fact are that they offered unlimited — not 5 pounds — but unlimited fries with any hamburger.

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