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Re: Google Promises Unlimited Storage; Cancels; Tells Journalist Life's Work Deleted

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Post by DiskoHexyl »

MetaWhirledPeas wrote: post #294
jeremyjh wrote: post #114

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Probably it means they want to compress and dedupe and you cannot compress data after it has been encrypted.

Wait what? I'm a confessed ignoramus but this does not make sense to me. Encrypted data is bits and bytes like everything else. You can compress it. (Maybe not as well as unencrypted text, but still.)

Encrypted data is highly random, and a compression ratio would be close to 1. So yeah- technically you can run a compression algorithm over it, but it won't help much

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Post by 6510 »

6510 wrote: post #187

I think the solution is to inform and assist the FBI with seizing the rest of his data.

At least that way it is preserved?

Fujifilm had a "free" 500 TB trial. Maybe they can move the data fast enough.

https://channelbuzz.ca/2020/06/fujifilm-unveils-unique-prici...

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Post by boringg »

cldellow wrote: post #287
boringg wrote: post #236

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Because they are using 237 Tb in an "unlimited" service from Google. And based on the mechanism they are using to pay for it (enterprise account with one seat) - they knew they had found a loop hole in google policy. (r/datahoarders) Seriously I'm all on board with giving Google the much grief that they deserve - but I also would expect someone claiming victim here to have more of a claim than abusing a "unlimited" a…

You talk about loopholes three times in this comment. > Because they are using 237 Tb in an unlimited service from Google Google's a trillion dollar company. A popular saying amongst Googlers is "I don't know how to count that low". They're used to big numbers. I work at a much smaller company. We are not a trillion dollar company. Even we, when offering an unlimited service, ask ourselves: "What happens if someone t…

You should question the story a bit more. You think Google only gave 7 days? That seems super suss.

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tedivm wrote: post #24

People really need to understand that Google is a garbage company that can't be relied on for anything. I've spent years as a consultant, and several more in the startup world, and I'd rather host all my content in us-east-1 than rely on google. * I've had customers get their cloud accounts shut down for a literal three cent billing error, * I've seen people who use Google for advertising pay thousands of dollars and…

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alacode wrote: post #271

I'm no great defender of Google but point some fallacies the article pushes: "regarding a woman losing her entire Google account after one of her 7 year old sons, messing around with a camera and uploading the videos to YouTube, published a video of himself naked. For obvious reasons, that’s a problem" If a 7 year old found a parent's gun, walked into the street and shot a neighbor to death accidentally; the parent i…

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Post by cesarb »

MetaWhirledPeas wrote: post #294
jeremyjh wrote: post #114

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Probably it means they want to compress and dedupe and you cannot compress data after it has been encrypted.

Wait what? I'm a confessed ignoramus but this does not make sense to me. Encrypted data is bits and bytes like everything else. You can compress it. (Maybe not as well as unencrypted text, but still.)

> Encrypted data is bits and bytes like everything else. You can compress it. (Maybe not as well as unencrypted text, but still.)

Due to the pigeonhole principle, to be able to make some inputs shorter you have to make some inputs longer. The way compression works is by making more likely inputs shorter, while making unlikely inputs longer. But for encrypted data, if your encryption method is good (that is, not ECB mode), all possible values are equally likely (unless you known the secret key).

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Post by kbrosnan »

haswell wrote: post #284
ollien wrote: post #264

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The six-month grace period notice pretty clearly states his data would be read-only, while the seven-day notice seems to be the first time destruction is even mentioned. I think we can both agree that there's a world of difference between data being read-only and being destroyed. I think it's completely reasonable to say he has 7 days to download it.

> I think it's completely reasonable to say he has 7 days to download it. 7 days to download 200TB+ does not seem reasonable.

'to say that...' is discussing which of the statements in the article is a better interpretation, 7 vs 60. It is not making any claims about the reasonableness of the 7 days to download the soon to be deleted data.
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