> Artificial intelligence systems found to Excel at imitation, but not innovation And they do it using the Microsoft spreadsheet software?
Artificial intelligence systems found to excel at imitation, but not innovation
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Re: Artificial intelligence systems found to excel at imitation, but not innovation
#32In other words, it is the ability to find patterns between two concepts that weren't, ever, prior announced. A computer that could do this would then be AI. A computer that cannot would fall short of that category, however otherwise dazzling in stitching together established patterns.
A quick human, and therefore, machine test of this ability might be decoding of prior unseen allegory. How fast and accurately can a human or machine identify (abstract) any true pattern in an allegory that can be applied to another seemingly unrelated concept or story? Again, this would have to be a new allegory to the subject. Ideally, harboring a pattern that isn't discussed anywhere in training data.
The AI would be held to be improved as its ability improved to decode and apply increasingly abstract or otherwise complex patterns from allegory or stories.
Not that I would be, but I'm un aware of any LLM / AI progress toward that type of processing.
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#33> Artificial intelligence systems found to Excel at imitation, but not innovation And they do it using the Microsoft spreadsheet software?
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#34* I do love trying to innovate, and it feels so good when it's a success!
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#35Innovation is simply a result of trying to imitate, but adding errors. That's how humans do it. Add in some darwinism so that the best 'innovations' survive. Made a mistake in making food? Oh, that's a new recipe. Can't really remember how to tell the story? Well, that's a new story. Accidentally kicked a ball while trying to just walk? I just invented soccer. And so on.
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#36Earlier quoted context omitted.
Until they can't find seniors anymore.
AI is going to be in a different place in 5 or 10 years.
However, I had the impression there doesn't exist enough training data to make that place different in a meaningful way.
Still, I think, letting some skilled UX designers loose on input methods could improve things quite a bit, even if the models won't get "smarter".
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#37Re: Artificial intelligence systems found to excel at imitation, but not innovation
#38I'm shocked; shocked to learn that no innovation is going on at this AI establishment. Mimicry needs information, of which an AI has heaps; but, innovation needs will, of which it has none. Maybe some day, but not now.
> innovation needs will feedback Innovation needs feedback, otherwise all ML papers would not run evaluations. Humans come up with 100 stupid ideas that fail at eval before stumbling onto a good one. Improving innovation is a matter of putting the AI inside a system that can provide feedback. Remember AlphaGo move 37? The model created feedback by self-play games, and beat all humans at Go - feedback made it really m…
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#39Personally I think "consciousness" or "sentience" or whatever you want to call it, is really not that useful in making logical decisions or solving engineering problems. It is certainly a useful trait to humans but if nobody can tell that the person/program in the chinese room doesnt actually "understand" chinese then why does it matter? If it walks and talks like a duck you can probably use it for whatever ducks are useful for.
Re: Artificial intelligence systems found to excel at imitation, but not innovation
#40A truly innovative AI would probably hallucinate or produce so many nonsensical outputs as to be deemed useless and broken.