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Plane got to top spot in project management on GitHub in less than a year

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Re: Plane got to top spot in project management on GitHub in less than a year

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Post by khimaros »

JCharante wrote: post #77
chx wrote: post #36

> See what 2,300+ folks in a forum get up to oh okay > Join our Discord sadness. where's the forum?

Yup I hate discord. Discord is for gaming, not for school or work. They should use something like Mattermost instead. But J, they don't want to waste their time with hosting a messaging platform! Well if that's the case, then why would others waste their time hosting their own project management board?

i was burned badly by mattermost when their expert functionality didn't work for months and eventually i missed the archival deadline and lost all of the history for a project.

Re: Plane got to top spot in project management on GitHub in less than a year

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Post by guappa »

prepend wrote: post #50
alephnan wrote: post #9

> “But what are GitHub stars?” This is weird. It’s almost as if this is a sales pitch to non-technical management who gets to make the executive decision on what issue tracker to use. That’s almost antithetical to “by engineers, for engineers” If this project is driven by commercial interests, then the open-source spirit, if any, isn’t genuine and won’t stick around once VCs want the bait-and-switch. Edit: the blog p…

I read it as addressing the “who cares about stars” that I have whenever someone mentions stars. So it was like a developer saying “I know stars are a dumb and imperfect way to judge a project, but here’s what it is.” If they hadn’t written this I would think they put too much weight on what’s really not a very important measure.

If they hadn't mentioned stars we'd know they don't care. Now I'm almost certain they paid for them.

There are several websites where it is possible to buy them.

Re: Plane got to top spot in project management on GitHub in less than a year

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Post by codeptualize »

lijok wrote: post #38
CSDude wrote: post #5

I'm all for open source task trackers, but the UI in most parts is a rip off of Linear.

Not copying existing ideas is the strangest thing to me. What is the point of spending months trying to come up with an original design, instead of just taking a proven design and improving on it / customizing it to your companies virtues? In the fintech space I've seen so many startups hire designers to come up with original new designs and user experiences, only to arrive at the exact same design as existing fintec…

It's not black and white, but cloning a product is just not nice. The legality is probably fine, there might be an argument for copyright infringements, but unlikely to get any result.

Imo it's also good to realize in this kind of software, patterns and UI are very core to the product, so you are copying the essence of what this company has spend tons of time and resources to develop. Fintech might be different as it's less about UI.

Then there is also a difference between UI patterns and branding. The first: It's good to follow standards and expectations, the second should just not be copied imo.

Another factor is asking money for it, which it looks like they intent to do. I think that makes it even weirder to clone an existing product as now you try to compete and profit from other peoples work.

There is a fine but clear line between inspiration and copying, and imo this crosses the line.

Even if legal I would not use this product for that reason, and imo it reflects poorly on the people doing it.

Re: Plane got to top spot in project management on GitHub in less than a year

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Post by martypitt »

guappa wrote: post #118
martypitt wrote: post #107

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Github stars are a distribution channel, which leads to awareness, and drives adoption. Also, it's an informal social proof, which drives trust. The more stars, the more legit something seems.

They are for sale https://buygithub.com/product/stars/ so it is very suspicious in this case, when there is a sudden spike, a marketing blog mentioning them. My personal experience is that most stars on my projects come from empty accounts that star random stuff to avoid getting detected when they star the projects that paid.

I read somewhere that "fake" stars get pruned pretty quickly.

Regardless, imperfect as it is, a GH project with 20k stars feels more credible than one with 200.

(I write this as someone who works full time on a GH repo with 200 stars! :D)

Re: Plane got to top spot in project management on GitHub in less than a year

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Post by blyatperkele »

notlive wrote: post #104

The Plane codebase is a good read. If you want to see a well put together Django + Nextjs project you should check it out. There has been a lot of talk recently about what open source means. To completely side-step that discussion, I have plane starred on github because I learned a lot looking at their code without ever having run it or ever using the product.

Although the structure is fairly good, but I'm always puzzled why testing is so neglected, especially with projects that are popular and - hypothetically - production-ready...

Re: Plane got to top spot in project management on GitHub in less than a year

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Post by ilrwbwrkhv »

s_Hogg wrote: post #26

https://docs.plane.so/self-hosting Gives a 404. I hope they see this message, it was the only thing I wanted to read really.

All of these companies are basically soft scams. They go against the fundamental ethos of open source. It's a shame really. Also I wonder how many of these rankings are not gamed by Indian bot farms.

Re: Plane got to top spot in project management on GitHub in less than a year

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Post by ilrwbwrkhv »

JCharante wrote: post #75

This was a good read, albeit very long. I ordered my meal, finished it, and got in my cab before finishing this article. Congrats on the growth. Do any companies decide to switch away from Jira onto Plane or is it only new orgs/teams? Because I find that there's a lot of integrated tooling around Jira that keeps people there.

Nobody I have heard uses plane. I wonder if they are using bot farms from India to game the system. Hard to know.

Re: Plane got to top spot in project management on GitHub in less than a year

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Post by codeptualize »

qaq wrote: post #24
Keats wrote: post #6

That does look like a pure copy of Linear UI wise

That also looks like tailwind ui

Which one was first? From memory Linear might outdate Tailwind UI.

Also Linear has been defining in terms of their website design, they have been doing a lot of impactful work.

Re: Plane got to top spot in project management on GitHub in less than a year

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Post by jinushaun »

IggleSniggle wrote: post #92
mrklol wrote: post #87

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I always go with discord in newer projects. Why? I feel like most people have discord nowadays and it just works (TM). I rarely have a case where a person said that they can’t join because they don’t have discord or don’t want to create an account because other reasons. Beside that, money is also a big factor. Slack for example is getting more expensive for communities.

It does not "just work," and you're not going to hear from me because I'm not joining yet another Discord server just to wade through searching through chat. Do a free forum. They've worked for 30 years and I might actually find my answer by Googling and won't need to even making a forum account.

I agree. Search is abysmal. Discord is fine for community chat, but it’s awful as a replacement for customer support forums.

Re: Plane got to top spot in project management on GitHub in less than a year

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Post by pokipoke »

notlive wrote: post #104

The Plane codebase is a good read. If you want to see a well put together Django + Nextjs project you should check it out. There has been a lot of talk recently about what open source means. To completely side-step that discussion, I have plane starred on github because I learned a lot looking at their code without ever having run it or ever using the product.

You are wrong. Just checked Django part. No annotations, `__all__` in serializers, exists+get instead just calling .first(), etc. It's no way a good Django codebase.
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