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Plane got to top spot in project management on GitHub in less than a year

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Re: Plane got to top spot in project management on GitHub in less than a year

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Post by sokoloff »

vmfunction wrote: post #85
dabeeeenster wrote: post #55

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Spent 10 minutes trying to get it running locally, couldn't. They suddenly mention nginx in the self hosting docs - why?! I don't understand open source projects that required you to fiddle around with scripts, environment files, reverse proxies etc to try the platform out! docker compose up should "just work" ™.

well some people like docker and some don't. If you are in the self-hosting realm, personally I think it is fair that the people doing it knows about DevOp or systemadmin, or else pay someone to host it for you.

That’s certainly the incentive of a company who sells paid hosting.

I think it’s reasonable to provide as close to a one-line / one-action initial install, even for people who are experienced admins. (Those experienced folks can edit/tweak as they like, but having a basic “push this and something sensible happens” goes a long, long way to getting people to succeed in trying the product.)

Re: Plane got to top spot in project management on GitHub in less than a year

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Post by chrisan »

prepend wrote: post #89
ruune wrote: post #62

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Discord does have an okayish search feature which gave me a desired answer most of the time I joined a server because of a particular program I had. Enormous downside being that you have to guess the previously used wording if you don't have an error message or something.

I don’t want to join a server to search. It’s kind of an expensive action. And it’s sticky. I don’t like joining things and having more clutter. So in discord it’s like this: -join server -search -figure out how to leave server On IRC it’s like this: -join channel -ask question -get directed to wiki or forum -search forum -never have to leave anything -or better yet that wiki or forum is indexed so I just google and…

I grew up with (and love) irc but currently use discord. I find it odd someone who knows irc would list "figure out how to leave a server".

Try explaining the steps to irc to someone who has never used irc before. That will be way more difficult than figuring out discord.

irc also has the downside of "ask question - get nothing" because the guy (who you dont know which guy is "the guy") wasnt online to even see the message. Or "ask the question and wait and hope I dont get disconnected losing any responses they might have answered with"

Discords can setup tickets or question areas as well, which greatly helps

All that said, I prefer docs, wiki, or a forum/subreddit over either irc or discord, but no way would I want to go back to irc

Re: Plane got to top spot in project management on GitHub in less than a year

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Post by tuananh »

vmfunction wrote: post #85
dabeeeenster wrote: post #55

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Spent 10 minutes trying to get it running locally, couldn't. They suddenly mention nginx in the self hosting docs - why?! I don't understand open source projects that required you to fiddle around with scripts, environment files, reverse proxies etc to try the platform out! docker compose up should "just work" ™.

well some people like docker and some don't. If you are in the self-hosting realm, personally I think it is fair that the people doing it knows about DevOp or systemadmin, or else pay someone to host it for you.

to me, docker serves as documentation as well. I can see the dockerfile along with docker-compose file to see how it's being setup.

Re: Plane got to top spot in project management on GitHub in less than a year

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Post by notlive »

The Plane codebase is a good read. If you want to see a well put together Django + Nextjs project you should check it out. There has been a lot of talk recently about what open source means. To completely side-step that discussion, I have plane starred on github because I learned a lot looking at their code without ever having run it or ever using the product.

Re: Plane got to top spot in project management on GitHub in less than a year

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Post by master-lincoln »

luke-stanley wrote: post #15
master-lincoln wrote: post #10

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linear is MIT license, so taking their UI design seems ok

I don't know about IP, but Linear is a web app and company that is not broadly open source, not even open-core, and is not something presented as something the user can self host.

sorry, you seem to be right. I got confused by their github presence which despite the name, doesn't contain their product. https://github.com/linear/linear

Re: Plane got to top spot in project management on GitHub in less than a year

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Post by martypitt »

prakashn27 wrote: post #100

I don’t understand why there is a pricing for open source software ? I always expect sponser link and surprised to find a pro plan for it. And GitHub stars does not matter. Period.

Github stars are a distribution channel, which leads to awareness, and drives adoption.

Also, it's an informal social proof, which drives trust. The more stars, the more legit something seems.

Re: Plane got to top spot in project management on GitHub in less than a year

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Post by elnygren »

dabeeeenster wrote: post #55
luke-stanley wrote: post #43

Okay it's open source but self-hosting it is not straightforward. The repo's self-hosting doc link returns a 404. Then after manually finding https://docs.plane.so/self-hosting/self-hosting , I am warned that there is a dizzying array of 4 env files. I suppose they are in a tricky situation, in that while they want to stand out as open source, actually having people easily self-host it, is perhaps, not a goal that is…

Spent 10 minutes trying to get it running locally, couldn't. They suddenly mention nginx in the self hosting docs - why?! I don't understand open source projects that required you to fiddle around with scripts, environment files, reverse proxies etc to try the platform out! docker compose up should "just work" ™.

Since they have a /pricing page it would seem their business is not to make it easy to self-host but in fact to make people pay for the cloud version instead.

Re: Plane got to top spot in project management on GitHub in less than a year

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Post by Alex3917 »

luke-stanley wrote: post #43

Okay it's open source but self-hosting it is not straightforward. The repo's self-hosting doc link returns a 404. Then after manually finding https://docs.plane.so/self-hosting/self-hosting , I am warned that there is a dizzying array of 4 env files. I suppose they are in a tricky situation, in that while they want to stand out as open source, actually having people easily self-host it, is perhaps, not a goal that is…

I haven't look at this particular project, but having to type the same information into multiple env files is unfortunately pretty unavoidable. Making a Docker / Django project instantiable via template and then runnable locally and deployable in production unfortunately involves 5+ different variable templating systems, which each require their variables to be declared in different files and formats.
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