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What We Watched: A Netflix engagement report

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Re: What We Watched: A Netflix engagement report

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post #163

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It's a warm show about people who care about each other where the drama comes from social misunderstandings. The initial pilot featured a more conniving Penny played by a different actress. The focus group feedback was "Someone keep that mean girl away from those sweet boys". Think of it as a show for moms / grandmothers / aunts of nerdy men. They want to see them get up so some shenanigans but generally be OK. It's…

Warm show? I admittedly haven’t watched many episodes, but they all seem somewhat casually cruel to one another, and not in a loving way you may tease a friend. I always felt the stereotypes were truly making fun of geek/nerds, and somehow fooled folks into thinking they were in on the joke. Warm is a word I have a hard time using.

> they all seem somewhat casually cruel to one another

So you're saying it's the same as just about any other sitcom?

Besides joking at one another's expense, a super common trope in US sitcoms is the lie to avoid embarrassment which builds up tension throughout the show, inevitably leads to exposure/confrontation and then resolution (forgiveness) near the end.

So many situations would be resolved quickly if the characters just 'fessed up immediately instead of trying to deceive the others to save face.

But then, there'd be no show with cheap laughs.

Re: What We Watched: A Netflix engagement report

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post #284
post #67

Slightly related. Netflix is that company that doesn't provide English subtitles in Australia (unless the movie/show's original language is not English), and possibly other native English countries as well. They do provide closed captions however, so that we get helpful captions such as " loud urinating sounds ".

Wait, is there a distinction between "subtitles" and "closed captions"?

"Subtitles assume the viewer can hear but cannot understand the language or accent, or the speech is not entirely clear, so they transcribe only dialogue and some on-screen text.

Captions aim to describe to the deaf and hard of hearing all significant audio content—spoken dialogue and non-speech information such as the identity of speakers and, occasionally, their manner of speaking—along with any significant music or sound effects using words or symbols."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Closed_captioning#Terminology

Re: What We Watched: A Netflix engagement report

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post #284
post #67

Slightly related. Netflix is that company that doesn't provide English subtitles in Australia (unless the movie/show's original language is not English), and possibly other native English countries as well. They do provide closed captions however, so that we get helpful captions such as " loud urinating sounds ".

Wait, is there a distinction between "subtitles" and "closed captions"?

Closed captions also provide hints as to non-dialog audio; song lyrics, musical tones, important noises in the background etc.

Personally I always use subtitles, and closed captions if it's available; there are quite a lot of audio clues that I wouldn't otherwise know are even interesting, that get highlighted - mostly extra detail rather than plot important, but it does key you up to things happening or about to happen in the background.

Re: What We Watched: A Netflix engagement report

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

To be fair, it's a definite truth that shows get more chance of funding based on what is popular and how it fits into that perceived potential popularity. So TBBT is a part of the overall zeitgeist, an example of a show of its type that was very successful. You bet if a sci-fi show was number 1, than other sci-fi shows would be being made and better funded.

What is sad is that popular comedy shows on Netflix and elsewhere are old network shows. America doesn't know how to make comedy anymore. I blame Twitter.

Uk is going through a comedy golden age last decades. I attribute it to bbc doing an excellent job giving chances to younger comedians on gameshows like mock the week, qi, 9 out of 10 cats, im sorry i havent a clue etc... as well as the prominence of edinburgh fringe

I think this sort of talent development really is just about giving chances to new folks, its the risk averse large networks only re-hiring the same older folks that stifles an artistic sector, be it movies, shows, music, games, comedy etc

Re: What We Watched: A Netflix engagement report

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post #161

Read the top 10 list, and I haven’t heard of any of these shows. Is the world segregating such that there are fewer shared activities in a community to talk about? Growing up 30 years ago, everybody knew the top 5 TV shows even if you didn’t watch them: they were the topic of conversations or at least listed in thr “TV guides”

> Growing up 30 years ago, everybody knew the top 5 TV shows

To be fair 30 years ago there were probably only 20 or so new/big TV shows to watch and those shows tried to cater for all viewers - age/sex/background etc. Today the choice is much greater (and probably includes those 20 or so shows somewhere) as producers can create content that only specific demographics will be into but the international streaming nature means that enough people will watch.

The most popular shows today are those watched by younger viewers.

Re: What We Watched: A Netflix engagement report

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post #263

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The Night Agent was not good enough that you would want to go through the effort to pirate it, but it was slightly good enough to watch if you had nothing else to do after a hard day of work. I had no idea it was that successful, now I feel sort of bad for contributing to it.

I'm surprised that I wasn't the one who wrote this review!

I guess the lesson to take away from all this is there are a lot of people who are tired after a long day at work and are willing to waste their time on something acceptable instead of trying to choose something better.

Re: What We Watched: A Netflix engagement report

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For me at least, streaming platforms are becoming more like where I sample content so I can download the content myself separately.

I had several experiences where I would start content and all of a sudden I can't find it anymore because it left the platform or they're playing shenanigans (ML?) , like with onepiece it wouldn't show up at all under my profile so had to create a new one. Others requring using a different IP.

The latest straw is ads. Nope, no way. I mean, I think streaming platforms are actually undercharging so I'd be happy to pay more but they just like ads.

So, "downloading" content via other means so far has resulted in better quality videos (although subtitles have been a struggle). In one case, the older video was upscaled by ML by some random person and it was much better looking than what the streaming platform offered!

Best things in life are free and all.

Re: What We Watched: A Netflix engagement report

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I thought season 1 was straightforward once you understood the dual timelines

> once you understood the dual timelines That's a big caveat. Haha. I made it through almost the entirety of the season before I realized there were dual timelines. Nothing made sense. Maybe that's on me.. but I feel like enough people had similar issues that it's more likely a major shortcoming of the show.

I'm the same, something as simple as `$year` at the bottom of the screen when switching about would have helped me immensely. It was disorienting enough that it put me off watching any of the further seasons.
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