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What We Watched: A Netflix engagement report

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It just occurred to me Netflix has a great history of finding ways to screw workers. They famously are the first company to go with “unlimited vacation” so as to not have any money on the books and also screw employees from taking a vacation. They also found ways to not share any revenue with writers and not reveal engagement numbers either

> They famously are the first company to go with “unlimited vacation” I took more vacation at Netflix than anywhere else I ever worked, and so did most of the people around me. Management would make it a point to remind you to take your vacation, and would always make sure they all took vacations more than a week at a time so you knew it was ok. Unlimited vacation was a huge benefit to me as a worker at Netflix. Othe…

The writers didn't get screwed, though. By paying upfront Netflix completely absorbed all the risk. The writers just decided they wanted to have their cake and eat it too.

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post #161

Read the top 10 list, and I haven’t heard of any of these shows. Is the world segregating such that there are fewer shared activities in a community to talk about? Growing up 30 years ago, everybody knew the top 5 TV shows even if you didn’t watch them: they were the topic of conversations or at least listed in thr “TV guides”

Yes, this was also my experience reading the list. Apparently I'm even more bubbled than I thought.

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post #187

For anyone else wondering “why they’ve decided to do this”— This is an outcome of the WGA strike negotiations. Now writers (and actors, and anyone else) can use this information to better negotiate their worth with studios, rather than it being 1-sided. All other streaming services should be following suit soon. https://www.wgacontract2023.org/the-campaign/what-we-won > Streaming data transparency: Companies agree to…

Who needs new content? Kinda sad to see the most popular shows being Friends, Suits, Breaking Bad, the walking dead etc.

Seems like a sign that the medium is finally maturing to me. Imagine if people only ever read new books.

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post #35

I noticed that the watchtime of `You` was split half-and-half between the new season 4 and the prior seasons 1-3. I was curious about the total results by show, including all seasons. Here's the top 25: TITLE TOTAL HRS WATCHED ----- ----------------- Ginny & Georgia 967,200,000 The Night Agent 812,100,000 You 766,300,000 Outer Banks 740,400,000 The Walking Dead 738,600,000 The Glory 622,800,000 La Reina del Sur 616,8…

> The Big Bang Theory 420,400,000 That is just depressing IMO.. I don't understand the appeal to that show..

My wife will put Friends on as a background to the day. So it might not be engaged watchers just people who want the noise and like the familiarity of the characters talking in the same way that radio fills the audio space.

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They are not. They removed the five star rating because they thought people lied to themselves, but in reality they just couldn’t handle the data. What they will give you is what I call the lowest common denominator of shows.

> but in reality they just couldn’t handle the data If you mean from a "critique" standpoint then no. If you meant from a "data wrangling standpoint then yes, as binary like/dislike data is just a lot easier to work with for recommendation algorithms. There are many good reasons to move from a five star rating system to a binary rating system, and yeah, I think many of those fall into the "people lied to themselves"…

So to summarize, customers are dumb & recommendation algorithms are hard. Conflating time watched with user enjoyment is much easier.

Sounds pretty similar to all mediocre companies out there.

I loved Netflix stuff when they started out, banger after banger was delivered. Something changed.

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For anyone else wondering “why they’ve decided to do this”— This is an outcome of the WGA strike negotiations. Now writers (and actors, and anyone else) can use this information to better negotiate their worth with studios, rather than it being 1-sided. All other streaming services should be following suit soon. https://www.wgacontract2023.org/the-campaign/what-we-won > Streaming data transparency: Companies agree to…

Your quote left out "subject to a confidentiality agreement". Streamers are not obliged to make this information public, and I don't expect companies like Amazon to do so since they're extremely secretive about viewership numbers.

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I suspect it’s deliberate business strategy. Netflix wants to licence more content and sees value in demonstrating to the stock market that it has the best economics to do so. If Netflix can get ten million viewers for a tier 2 general entertainment series, the IP holders should pick Netflix as a partner over a Paramount+ type service that can only get a few hundred thousand viewers. It’s no coincidence this announce…

Just goes to show how much people make things up and couldn’t be further from the truth (see other comments for why this information was released, this one is flat out wrong).

I see no contradiction. They're obliged to release this information but it may also suit their commercial interests.

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post #183

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Good time to mention that 120 MILLION people watched the series finale of MASH. To this day it's still in the top 10 of most viewed television events with the other being primarily sports events (e.g. Super Bowl etc)

as estimated by a sampling of 1700-5500 homes. 1980 1,700 audiometer homes and a rotating board of nearly 850 diary respondents 1985 Nielsen meters TV viewing in more than 5,500 U.S. homes

Are you saying that viewing number is dubious because the panel is small?

~2000 is a pretty decent sample size. The viewing numbers you should be skeptical about are the very small ones which will have huge error bars, not the huge ones.

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post #154

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Which show has been cancelled because of TBBT, a show that ended almost 5 years ago?

To be fair, it's a definite truth that shows get more chance of funding based on what is popular and how it fits into that perceived potential popularity. So TBBT is a part of the overall zeitgeist, an example of a show of its type that was very successful. You bet if a sci-fi show was number 1, than other sci-fi shows would be being made and better funded.

What is sad is that popular comedy shows on Netflix and elsewhere are old network shows.

America doesn't know how to make comedy anymore. I blame Twitter.

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post #83

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I really love the show, I think it's a combination of likable characters and feeling special when you understand a physics/chemistry/scifi etc reference. It makes you feel smart because you are in on the references that the smart people are making.

Sure, but the show displays toxic masculinity as a dorky thing that "nerds" just do. Overall, I believe the show is a terrible role model for how men who are in STEM fields should behave to others who do not fit the stereotype. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X3-hOigoxHs https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7L7NRONADJ4

I don't think you understand comedy.

It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia is not an educational show about how to manage a pub.

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