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GM says it's dropping Apple CarPlay and Android Auto because they're unsafe

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Re: GM says it's dropping Apple CarPlay and Android Auto because they're unsafe

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The major advantage of AA/CP is they are simple screen projection protocols capable of being supported for decades.

The "brains" of the system, namely the phone, can be easily upgraded as technology changes. People will get new phones. Operating systems will be upgraded. Apps will come and go. Maps will update. The system will keep working flawlessly.

This can't happen with fixed hardware in vehicle - the firmware and apps will be promptly outdated.

Re: GM says it's dropping Apple CarPlay and Android Auto because they're unsafe

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I won’t consider a car that doesn’t support CarPlay. This is going to backfire on Gam big time.

9to5mac polled their (obviously biased) audience and 80% said they wouldn’t consider a car without CarPlay. I wonder how Android Auto users feel since GM’s software is basically going to be their own hard baked version of AA… all your settings will probably sync but I think I’d still rather just plug my phone in and let it handle my data.

Re: GM says it's dropping Apple CarPlay and Android Auto because they're unsafe

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Maybe they can go find rastermon and revive Tizen lol.

My Samsung fridge is running Tizen! It's awful!

It's still baffling to me why Samsung fridges aren't just an API server exposing info to Samsung apps to present it on any other (potentially Samsung) device.

Leaving a space on the door to attach a Samsung tablet could even work, and the user gets to update the tablet whenever they want.

Re: GM says it's dropping Apple CarPlay and Android Auto because they're unsafe

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what will win; the best ux design teams in the world or the finance bros that have become GM. No question mark because it’s not a question.

The sooner that realize they’re a tape deck aux in with a motor attached, the better for everyone involved.

Re: GM says it's dropping Apple CarPlay and Android Auto because they're unsafe

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Wait, so they're saying CarPlay and Android Auto are buggy on their cars, most likely because of their errors in getting the mirroring part right, so instead of fixing the issues, they think switching to their in-house system that they will design from scratch, that'll probably have hundreds of bugs, that's most likely gonna suck, is a better option? They could've just said we're out of excuses we just want to make m…

This way they can wrap the errors in try..catch blocks and suppress their output.

Boom - error free code!

Re: GM says it's dropping Apple CarPlay and Android Auto because they're unsafe

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Call it what it is.. they like the control of their in car entertainment systems and they don't want external companies taking that part of the pie. It's okay gm, we understand. Let's hope you are able to make a compelling competition to this, otherwise your sales will suffer. Traditional car software is very very poor for whatever reason. I don't think that car manufacturers have the mindset and capability to make e…

Unfortunately consumers don't really punish companies for doing these kinds of things, at least I presume that's the story since high-end cars often have very shitty in-car computer experiences, like BMW or Porsche.

All car infotainment systems are essentially garbage. But BMW and Porsche both have excellent CarPlay support.

Re: GM says it's dropping Apple CarPlay and Android Auto because they're unsafe

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Wait, so they're saying CarPlay and Android Auto are buggy on their cars, most likely because of their errors in getting the mirroring part right, so instead of fixing the issues, they think switching to their in-house system that they will design from scratch, that'll probably have hundreds of bugs, that's most likely gonna suck, is a better option? They could've just said we're out of excuses we just want to make m…

but think of all the promotions and headcount for the internal teams...

Re: GM says it's dropping Apple CarPlay and Android Auto because they're unsafe

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This is just nonsense to justify locking consumers into Ultifi, their new Android based infotainment system. GM has stated they expect to generate $20-25 billion in app and subscription revenues by 2030 [1]. GM is about to figure out people are more loyal to their phone than their car. 1. https://gmauthority.com/blog/2022/08/gm-ultifi-to-generate-2...

Yep. Never buying a GM now. It would never pay for a subscription to have something just in my car that I also have on my phone.

Re: GM says it's dropping Apple CarPlay and Android Auto because they're unsafe

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I went ahead and googled if tesla uses android auto or carplay and apparently it doesn’t either. Neither does Rivian.

In almost every car I turn the screen as close to off as possible and just use my phone for navigation and music. The Tesla is the only exception: Their software is good enough to use rather than automatically ignore.
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