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Re: Pitivi – Free video editor with a beautiful and intuitive user interface

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Post by ShadowBanThis01 »

ReleaseCandidat wrote: post #44
Venn1 wrote: post #26

I have been editing my podcast and guides with NLEs on Linux for the past decade. Kdenlive, OpenShot, Olive, Cinelerra, Blender and Pitivi all lack one key feature. Stability. You can lose a staggering amount of work between auto saves. After a day of playing with the free version of Resolve in 2017 I gave BlackMagic some cash for a license & capture card for audio. The early versions lacked ALSA support. Editing ses…

Yes, the samé for me, just that I've used the Pro(?) version of Lightworks before BM released Resolve. But the least stable, unusable piece of (compositing/video) shi^H^H^Hsoftware had been Discreet's (now Autodesk) Combustion, which I got for free with a Quadro graphics card. If the first sentence in the press release is > Discreet's Combustion is a robust 3D compositing package you now what to expect ;) https://www…

Seriously, you're still complaining about a 22-year-old piece of software?

Not victim-blaming here, but it's unfortunate that you didn't experience the other end of the spectrum, the highest-end compositor there was: Shake.

Re: Pitivi – Free video editor with a beautiful and intuitive user interface

#102

Post by ShadowBanThis01 »

belugacat wrote: post #38
Racing0461 wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> After a day of playing with the free version of Resolve in 2017 I gave BlackMagic some cash for a license & capture card for audio I see you've came to the same conclusion i did years ago. I look at it not as paying for software, but buying my time back at this point. Linux "open source"/free professional software seems to lack the Je ne sais quoi needed to make it worthwhile. It works, but the software is in the "…

A lot of open source projects suffer from “pet project” syndrome. Some maintainers have very strong opinions about how/what things should be done regardless of actual user demand or feedback, and there’s no one with the power to rebuff them because the product owners deciding what to implement and the engineers doing implementation work are one and same. Commit right makes might. In a (healthy) company, you have PMs…

Well, Resolve suffers from the same attitude in places. While a good and usable product, it suffers from many design gaffes that go unaddressed year after year, despite denying users functions that are expected in any similar product.

The render-job UI is pretty shambolic (as is the treacherously inaccurate timeline on the same page), for example. And BMD refuses to add simple functions like "match timeline properties to clip." Instead they have a prompt that offers to match only frame rate, in contrast to just about every other media-editing app I can think of. Fixing that should be easy; and if it isn't, the codebase must be hopelessly inept.

The integrations of Fusion and Fairlight are buggy and exhibit nonsensical and misleading UI behavior. Resolve has a node view... oh wait, now it has two node views, which are not integrated with each other or with the editor. Fixing that should be priority one, which could create a truly excellent hybrid product that some of us have asking for for years.

And now they've ported the thing to the iPad. Really? I realize that from the outside we don't know how engineering people are allocated, but nonetheless it seems absurd to spend resources on that while the desktop product suffers from serious defects that have languished for a long time.

Re: Pitivi – Free video editor with a beautiful and intuitive user interface

#103

Post by chupapimunyenyo »

culi wrote: post #81
chupapimunyenyo wrote: post #77

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I tested many open source video editors and shotcut was the best compared to the rest. It has a lot of (basic) features that are missing in other editors

How does it compare to Kdenlive? I'm not an editor and also looking into floss video editors now. From what I see the most popular are: 1. Kdenlive 2. Avidemux 3. Openshot 4. Shotcut 5. Olive Video Editor 6. PiTiVi 7. Cinelerra

To be honest it looks like I completely missed Kdenlive. It looks very advanced compared to openshot, from what their website shows. May be worth a try for both of us

Re: Pitivi – Free video editor with a beautiful and intuitive user interface

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Post by gamblor956 »

ReactiveJelly wrote: post #7
renewiltord wrote: post #6

Unfortunately, when I last tried this a couple of years ago (I think), it crashed frequently. It could be my fault since I was using nouveau drivers.

I was gonna ask that. Every video editor I've tried, even back to Windows Movie Maker, crashed frequently. I don't know why. ffmpeg is rock-solid. Modern CPUs are good enough that you can basically handle 1080p without touching accelerators. Multi-threading is not impossible to get right in C++. So why do they all crash?

That sounds like a RAM issue.

If you've got a faulty RAM chip, a memory-intensive use like video editing will reveal it. And it usually does so by crashing.

Re: Pitivi – Free video editor with a beautiful and intuitive user interface

#105

Post by Dalewyn »

CyberDildonics wrote: post #98
Qem wrote: post #66

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If Micro$oft keeps enshittifying their OS at current rates, I bet a lot of people will get fed up and jump ship to Linux after one or two more windows releases. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enshittification

People have thought the same thing with every version of windows, a word made up by a blogger last year isn't going to change that. Linux's interface is still archaic compared to windows 7 unfortunately.

>Linux's interface is still archaic compared to windows 7 unfortunately.

I'm amused that I find myself preferring Windows 11 Explorer with its bloody worthless context menu and taskbar to anything FOSS has to offer.

GNOME? It's sincerely cancer. KDE? No software actually uses it. xfce/LXDE/et al.? Look, I'm not going to use a GUI that demands I go CLI some plain text files to change settings.

Re: Pitivi – Free video editor with a beautiful and intuitive user interface

#106

Post by guraf »

aleb wrote: post #59

Hello everybody, a Pitivi maintainer here. Some random thoughts, while I might have the attention.. I think when one considers a foss video editor, they might look into advanced features they need, if any, on how the app looks/integrates with everything, and not the last on how sustaining is the development. The needed features and look are personal and are what they are, so let me comment on sustainability of the "c…

> "Stability" is lacking in video editors because none are written in Rust.

And yet, somehow, all the pro editors manage to be fairly stable despite being written in C++ (or maybe obj-c in the case of final cut pro and iMovie)

Maybe you should do some introspection as to why that is, instead of blaming the language used.

PS: blender's NLE is possibly the most stable of the open-source ones and it's written in C. Maybe that's a hint? Maybe the answer is good leadership and high quality contributors?

Re: Pitivi – Free video editor with a beautiful and intuitive user interface

#107

Post by aryan20 »

aleb wrote: post #59

Hello everybody, a Pitivi maintainer here. Some random thoughts, while I might have the attention.. I think when one considers a foss video editor, they might look into advanced features they need, if any, on how the app looks/integrates with everything, and not the last on how sustaining is the development. The needed features and look are personal and are what they are, so let me comment on sustainability of the "c…

Pitivi is great for most things most editors want to do and that too with the comfort of an application that looks native to the GNOME desktop environment.

Sad to see that Pitivi won't get into GSoC'24 but I completely understand the concerns as well.

Have always advocated for Pitivi's development in my peer groups, and will continue to do so :)

Re: Pitivi – Free video editor with a beautiful and intuitive user interface

#108

Post by mxchris2121 »

culi wrote: post #81
chupapimunyenyo wrote: post #77

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I tested many open source video editors and shotcut was the best compared to the rest. It has a lot of (basic) features that are missing in other editors

How does it compare to Kdenlive? I'm not an editor and also looking into floss video editors now. From what I see the most popular are: 1. Kdenlive 2. Avidemux 3. Openshot 4. Shotcut 5. Olive Video Editor 6. PiTiVi 7. Cinelerra

The feature I need is syncing 16 audio tracks recorded in mp3 to the embedded (scratch) audio track recorded in the video. Resolve will sync with waveforms and even an LTC track (once I got that to play reliable every time I record).

What besides Resolve supports this?

Re: Pitivi – Free video editor with a beautiful and intuitive user interface

#109

Post by bean-weevil »

Venn1 wrote: post #26

I have been editing my podcast and guides with NLEs on Linux for the past decade. Kdenlive, OpenShot, Olive, Cinelerra, Blender and Pitivi all lack one key feature. Stability. You can lose a staggering amount of work between auto saves. After a day of playing with the free version of Resolve in 2017 I gave BlackMagic some cash for a license & capture card for audio. The early versions lacked ALSA support. Editing ses…

KDEnlive used to be awful about this, but it's a lot better now. I haven't had crashes in ages.

Re: Pitivi – Free video editor with a beautiful and intuitive user interface

#110

Post by flexagoon »

animex wrote: post #53
dharmab wrote: post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The free version of Resolve is so good. I looked for a reason to pay them- nope, free version did literally everything a non-professional would need. And they even have free downloadable lessons on how to edit - not just use their editor, but edit in general- on the website.

...but it asks for all your identifying information so their sales team can email, phone, snail-mail solicit you to upgrade...until their shit gets hacked and then they are paying out a multi-million dollar privacy settlement/fine :/

You can just write whatever in that form. It doesn't get checked. That's why some distros have packages for davinci resolve - they just POST random data to the website. For example

NixOS:

https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/blob/781e2a9797ecf0f146e814...

Arch:

https://aur.archlinux.org/cgit/aur.git/tree/PKGBUILD?h=davin...

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