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Re: Pitivi – Free video editor with a beautiful and intuitive user interface

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Post by Racing0461 »

Venn1 wrote: post #26

I have been editing my podcast and guides with NLEs on Linux for the past decade. Kdenlive, OpenShot, Olive, Cinelerra, Blender and Pitivi all lack one key feature. Stability. You can lose a staggering amount of work between auto saves. After a day of playing with the free version of Resolve in 2017 I gave BlackMagic some cash for a license & capture card for audio. The early versions lacked ALSA support. Editing ses…

> After a day of playing with the free version of Resolve in 2017 I gave BlackMagic some cash for a license & capture card for audio

I see you've came to the same conclusion i did years ago. I look at it not as paying for software, but buying my time back at this point.

Linux "open source"/free professional software seems to lack the Je ne sais quoi needed to make it worthwhile. It works, but the software is in the "uncanny valley" so to speak compared to polished Mac/Windows paid professional software.

Re: Pitivi – Free video editor with a beautiful and intuitive user interface

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Post by hulitu »

whywhywouldyou wrote: post #16

If the product has to TELL you up front that it has a "beautiful and intuitive user interface", it likely doesn't. And the Tour page has a screenshot of the application titled "Stunning Elegance", where it does a great job of mostly looking the same as any desktop app developed in the last 10 years -- full of shades of grey, plain, no menus. As a cherry on top, it is described as "Easy to learn. Exciting to master",…

That was also my impresion. The first thought: where is the menu. Maybe this little "..." thrown on the (supposed) title bar.

No screenshots, gray on gray, no system requirements page, no easily to find instalation instructions. No mention of which GTk version it needs.

Re: Pitivi – Free video editor with a beautiful and intuitive user interface

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Post by unixhero »

Venn1 wrote: post #26

I have been editing my podcast and guides with NLEs on Linux for the past decade. Kdenlive, OpenShot, Olive, Cinelerra, Blender and Pitivi all lack one key feature. Stability. You can lose a staggering amount of work between auto saves. After a day of playing with the free version of Resolve in 2017 I gave BlackMagic some cash for a license & capture card for audio. The early versions lacked ALSA support. Editing ses…

Can confirm. Used Kdenkive and Pitiwi, and they crashed on me. I lost a lot of work.

Re: Pitivi – Free video editor with a beautiful and intuitive user interface

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Post by dharmab »

Venn1 wrote: post #26

I have been editing my podcast and guides with NLEs on Linux for the past decade. Kdenlive, OpenShot, Olive, Cinelerra, Blender and Pitivi all lack one key feature. Stability. You can lose a staggering amount of work between auto saves. After a day of playing with the free version of Resolve in 2017 I gave BlackMagic some cash for a license & capture card for audio. The early versions lacked ALSA support. Editing ses…

The free version of Resolve is so good. I looked for a reason to pay them- nope, free version did literally everything a non-professional would need. And they even have free downloadable lessons on how to edit - not just use their editor, but edit in general- on the website.

Re: Pitivi – Free video editor with a beautiful and intuitive user interface

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Post by Dalewyn »

Racing0461 wrote: post #31
Venn1 wrote: post #26

I have been editing my podcast and guides with NLEs on Linux for the past decade. Kdenlive, OpenShot, Olive, Cinelerra, Blender and Pitivi all lack one key feature. Stability. You can lose a staggering amount of work between auto saves. After a day of playing with the free version of Resolve in 2017 I gave BlackMagic some cash for a license & capture card for audio. The early versions lacked ALSA support. Editing ses…

> After a day of playing with the free version of Resolve in 2017 I gave BlackMagic some cash for a license & capture card for audio I see you've came to the same conclusion i did years ago. I look at it not as paying for software, but buying my time back at this point. Linux "open source"/free professional software seems to lack the Je ne sais quoi needed to make it worthwhile. It works, but the software is in the "…

There is an old saying: "Time is money."

When you buy something, you are exchanging your money to obtain someone else's time. In this case, time that someone else spent to make sure a program works.

The F in FOSS stands for free, so nobody is under any obligation to spend their time so you don't spend yours.

Re: Pitivi – Free video editor with a beautiful and intuitive user interface

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Post by belugacat »

Racing0461 wrote: post #31
Venn1 wrote: post #26

I have been editing my podcast and guides with NLEs on Linux for the past decade. Kdenlive, OpenShot, Olive, Cinelerra, Blender and Pitivi all lack one key feature. Stability. You can lose a staggering amount of work between auto saves. After a day of playing with the free version of Resolve in 2017 I gave BlackMagic some cash for a license & capture card for audio. The early versions lacked ALSA support. Editing ses…

> After a day of playing with the free version of Resolve in 2017 I gave BlackMagic some cash for a license & capture card for audio I see you've came to the same conclusion i did years ago. I look at it not as paying for software, but buying my time back at this point. Linux "open source"/free professional software seems to lack the Je ne sais quoi needed to make it worthwhile. It works, but the software is in the "…

A lot of open source projects suffer from “pet project” syndrome. Some maintainers have very strong opinions about how/what things should be done regardless of actual user demand or feedback, and there’s no one with the power to rebuff them because the product owners deciding what to implement and the engineers doing implementation work are one and same. Commit right makes might.

In a (healthy) company, you have PMs and executives who will tell the overly opinionated engineers to STFU and actually implement things that move the needle and solve problems users are facing.

This is also why most open source projects have terrible UI/UX and any designer who attempts to help and improve things finds themselves ignored, with no means to actually carry out any decision, and walk away soon after.

Re: Pitivi – Free video editor with a beautiful and intuitive user interface

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Post by hn_acker »

Dalewyn wrote: post #36
Racing0461 wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> After a day of playing with the free version of Resolve in 2017 I gave BlackMagic some cash for a license & capture card for audio I see you've came to the same conclusion i did years ago. I look at it not as paying for software, but buying my time back at this point. Linux "open source"/free professional software seems to lack the Je ne sais quoi needed to make it worthwhile. It works, but the software is in the "…

There is an old saying: "Time is money." When you buy something, you are exchanging your money to obtain someone else's time. In this case, time that someone else spent to make sure a program works . The F in FOSS stands for free, so nobody is under any obligation to spend their time so you don't spend yours.

> The F in FOSS stands for free, so nobody is under any obligation to spend their time so you don't spend yours.

Your conclusion generalizes to no-charge software, not to all FOSS. The "free" in FOSS stands for free software, meaning free as in freedom rather than free as in price.

If a program is free software [1] then a user of the program can read the source code, modify it, and distribute (including sell) unmodified and modified versions of the program/code. A user who lacks the program or the code isn't entitled to the freedoms but can get the software from someone else who has it.

Developers of free software can charge for it. One way of making money from free software is charging for access to the developer's server. Another way is charging for more expansive user support. (Alternatives to charging for the software itself include requesting donations and selling physical merchandise.)

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_software

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