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Re: Pitivi – Free video editor with a beautiful and intuitive user interface

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I was gonna ask that. Every video editor I've tried, even back to Windows Movie Maker, crashed frequently. I don't know why. ffmpeg is rock-solid. Modern CPUs are good enough that you can basically handle 1080p without touching accelerators. Multi-threading is not impossible to get right in C++. So why do they all crash?

Try DaVinci Resolve

Not saying that you aren't right.

But using Davinci Resolve in an old cpu (as in 2012 cpu) it is a complete pain.

Re: Pitivi – Free video editor with a beautiful and intuitive user interface

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The free version of Resolve is so good. I looked for a reason to pay them- nope, free version did literally everything a non-professional would need. And they even have free downloadable lessons on how to edit - not just use their editor, but edit in general- on the website.

Last time I looked at it the free version didn't use your GPU for playback during editing. Has it changed since then?

It depends on the host OS and codec. On Windows if your OEM didn't include the H.265 license with your default installation you have to buy it for $1 from the Windows store (this is a Windows thing, not a Davinci thing). On Linux I think you have to pay for the Pro version which includes the license.

I think if you're working with DNxHD files you don't have to worry about this.

Re: Pitivi – Free video editor with a beautiful and intuitive user interface

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I have been editing my podcast and guides with NLEs on Linux for the past decade. Kdenlive, OpenShot, Olive, Cinelerra, Blender and Pitivi all lack one key feature. Stability. You can lose a staggering amount of work between auto saves. After a day of playing with the free version of Resolve in 2017 I gave BlackMagic some cash for a license & capture card for audio. The early versions lacked ALSA support. Editing ses…

The free version of Resolve is so good. I looked for a reason to pay them- nope, free version did literally everything a non-professional would need. And they even have free downloadable lessons on how to edit - not just use their editor, but edit in general- on the website.

...but it asks for all your identifying information so their sales team can email, phone, snail-mail solicit you to upgrade...until their shit gets hacked and then they are paying out a multi-million dollar privacy settlement/fine :/

Re: Pitivi – Free video editor with a beautiful and intuitive user interface

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It is a user interface that is usable and discoverable to a reasonable extent. But beautiful? come on.

It's all relative to its contemporary FOSS applications, and it may well be beautiful compared to some of those :)

Re: Pitivi – Free video editor with a beautiful and intuitive user interface

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> After a day of playing with the free version of Resolve in 2017 I gave BlackMagic some cash for a license & capture card for audio I see you've came to the same conclusion i did years ago. I look at it not as paying for software, but buying my time back at this point. Linux "open source"/free professional software seems to lack the Je ne sais quoi needed to make it worthwhile. It works, but the software is in the "…

A lot of open source projects suffer from “pet project” syndrome. Some maintainers have very strong opinions about how/what things should be done regardless of actual user demand or feedback, and there’s no one with the power to rebuff them because the product owners deciding what to implement and the engineers doing implementation work are one and same. Commit right makes might. In a (healthy) company, you have PMs…

If maintainers are paid to produce a feature, they should produce it regardless. Otherwise they're breaking a contract.

Re: Pitivi – Free video editor with a beautiful and intuitive user interface

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Try DaVinci Resolve

That doesn't answer the question. What make many video editors, regardless of their licence, so crash prone? Image/photo editors never crash (or so rarely), same for most modern audio editors / DAWs and the later can use an awful lot of memory too.

Probably the state of video drivers.

Re: Pitivi – Free video editor with a beautiful and intuitive user interface

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I have been editing my podcast and guides with NLEs on Linux for the past decade. Kdenlive, OpenShot, Olive, Cinelerra, Blender and Pitivi all lack one key feature. Stability. You can lose a staggering amount of work between auto saves. After a day of playing with the free version of Resolve in 2017 I gave BlackMagic some cash for a license & capture card for audio. The early versions lacked ALSA support. Editing ses…

> After a day of playing with the free version of Resolve in 2017 I gave BlackMagic some cash for a license & capture card for audio I see you've came to the same conclusion i did years ago. I look at it not as paying for software, but buying my time back at this point. Linux "open source"/free professional software seems to lack the Je ne sais quoi needed to make it worthwhile. It works, but the software is in the "…

the "je ne sais quoi" is called money

Re: Pitivi – Free video editor with a beautiful and intuitive user interface

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Hello everybody, a Pitivi maintainer here. Some random thoughts, while I might have the attention..

I think when one considers a foss video editor, they might look into advanced features they need, if any, on how the app looks/integrates with everything, and not the last on how sustaining is the development. The needed features and look are personal and are what they are, so let me comment on sustainability of the "competing" video editors:

- Shotcut's dev said a few years ago in an interview that he gets enough money out of the ads on the website. - Openshot's Jonathan, last I checked in the corona time on the website was also getting a few thousand USD per month, from donations. - KdenLive last I checked a few years ago had a nice active team(!). I'm sure if you manage to submit a proper crash report they'll fix it. :) - Olive's dev is very ambitious, good luck to him! - Blender's integrated video editor looks solid! - Pitivi's team shifted focus on GStreamer or away, but we always gathered ourselves to mentor each year 2-3 GSoC students. Most of the development for a good number of years has actually been done by GSoC students. A significant effort went into making their job easier, code reviews(!), merging, infra, maintenance. Two years in a row, groups of students from UNL Nebraska worked on awesome small features and enhancements. Behind the scenes, Igalia and other GStreamer contributors are doing heavy work on GStreamer. Thanks to all, you're awesome! :)

Now Pitivi.. like some of the others, has it's place. It's the only video editor based on GStreamer. GStreamer is here to stay, and so is Pitivi―at least until another video editor based on GStreamer and written in Rust (read "stable") pops up, you never know.

Pitivi is the only video editor built on GTK, we get quite some help from the community with the GitLab issue tracker and the website infra. We're not GNOME but yes we are close. We spent two individual GSoC internships to port Pitivi to GTK 4, but we're not there yet. Blame it on us. It'll get there at some point, but I don't think we'll do a third internship, so I think we'll most likely skip GSoC next year altogether.

"Beautiful" is not measurable, so if we say that "it's beautiful", it's not an absolute truth. You don't like it -> see "competition" above. Let me mention we did stay away from context menus. :)

"Marketing" will be needed when we want to do a(nother) fundraiser, but we're not there yet. The only marketing we might want to do is to developers and people who might be interested in joining and investing in the community. Maybe you have tips about that! Also regarding marketing, we don't have yet packages for Windows and Mac. I think all the others do.

"Stability" is lacking in video editors because none are written in Rust.

Cheers and have fun editing with your favorite video editor! I'll come back to check the replies next Monday.

Re: Pitivi – Free video editor with a beautiful and intuitive user interface

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> After a day of playing with the free version of Resolve in 2017 I gave BlackMagic some cash for a license & capture card for audio I see you've came to the same conclusion i did years ago. I look at it not as paying for software, but buying my time back at this point. Linux "open source"/free professional software seems to lack the Je ne sais quoi needed to make it worthwhile. It works, but the software is in the "…

A lot of open source projects suffer from “pet project” syndrome. Some maintainers have very strong opinions about how/what things should be done regardless of actual user demand or feedback, and there’s no one with the power to rebuff them because the product owners deciding what to implement and the engineers doing implementation work are one and same. Commit right makes might. In a (healthy) company, you have PMs…

> “and there’s no one with the power to rebuff them”

Except for those that discover the fork button. /s

In all seriousness I think that what you mean is that people rarely have the power to fork a project and drag all the users and development expertise over to their version. Especially if they are simply users of the system and not contributors. Users of commercial software can get companies to do stuff for them with their wallets.

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