Crazy that the CEO even tried to create an entire company based on something that they absolutely cannot control. Was this an acquisition play?
Beeper is doing a lot more than just an iMessage proxy.
Apple cuts off Beeper Mini's access
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#52This is what Snazzy Labs said about Beeper Mini... hilarious:
> This doesn't appear to be some easy thing Apple can just turn off.
> It will require a complete redesign of their entire authentication and delivery strategy for not just iMessage but Apple ID account access as a whole.
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#53The EU should, like they did years ago with PC operating systems, mandate a default browser selection screen. And a default messenger selection screen. And a default app store selection screen. Not that we'd get it in the US but it would help reduce Apple/Google market capture efforts.
>And a default messenger selection screen.
What for? Everybody in the EU already uses whatsapp. That shows how unnecessary these selection screens are.
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#54Crazy that the CEO even tried to create an entire company based on something that they absolutely cannot control. Was this an acquisition play?
Beeper (not mini) is already a company - it's an app that aggregates the various other networks friends and family insist on using. WhatsApp, FB Messenger, Telegram, Instagram, etc.
Been using it a while now, pretty good.
This was a proof of concept to expand that app, it's not the entire company
Re: Apple cuts off Beeper Mini's access
#55The EU should, like they did years ago with PC operating systems, mandate a default browser selection screen. And a default messenger selection screen. And a default app store selection screen. Not that we'd get it in the US but it would help reduce Apple/Google market capture efforts.
Nah I rather them do what they’re doing right now and enforce chat applications be cross platform.
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#56> Reached for comment, Beeper CEO Eric Migicovsky did not deny that Apple has successfully blocked Beeper Mini. “If it’s Apple, then I think the biggest question is... if Apple truly cares about the privacy and security of their own iPhone users, why would they stop a service that enables their own users to now send encrypted messages to Android users, rather than using unsecure SMS? With their announcement of RCS su…
The good thing though is that Apple finally announced RCS support >
Re: Apple cuts off Beeper Mini's access
#57I mean, what did they really expect when accessing a private messaging service without permission? Maybe it shouldn't be private or whatever, but it still seemed weird to me that they thought this would "just work".
I think it is odd that they chose to make a product out of a hack. Seems like a lot to invest on the bet a few Apple security people wouldn't patch this up.
Not discouraging the endeavour but now they are on the hook for all of these customers who bought on this promise. Feels like it should have started as a free product to see how Apple would handle it.
Re: Apple cuts off Beeper Mini's access
#58This is what Snazzy Labs said about Beeper Mini... hilarious: > This doesn't appear to be some easy thing Apple can just turn off. > It will require a complete redesign of their entire authentication and delivery strategy for not just iMessage but Apple ID account access as a whole.
To be fair, this could be a heuristic based ban which wouldn’t be too hard to bypass.
It’ll be interesting if beeper mini ends up bypassing it.
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#59Do sms/mms received from iMessage users on Android look anything in particular? Because a possible move for Google would be to reject them by default in some future version (hm hm, "security reasons"). End of "yes you're still in but you look like a cripple" and begin of "this app doesn't allow me to talk to that person, if I want to reach him I need to switch to something that supports Android".
Re: Apple cuts off Beeper Mini's access
#60Crazy that the CEO even tried to create an entire company based on something that they absolutely cannot control. Was this an acquisition play?
I used to think like this before I saw companies like Instagram and Tiktok thrive in the app store, which they absolutely cannot control. It is often worth a shot.