Apple cuts off Beeper Mini's access • Hacker News Board

Re: Apple cuts off Beeper Mini's access

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Post by JohnMakin » Fri, Dec 08, 2023, 10:45 PM UTC

this comment predicted it: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38536577

Re: Apple cuts off Beeper Mini's access

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Post by etchalon » Fri, Dec 08, 2023, 10:45 PM UTC

You mean the company who controls the protocol, and the clients, and the servers for a given service somehow found a way to stop a third-party from utilizing that service without permission?

I am shocked at this outcome, and shall write my senator.

Re: Apple cuts off Beeper Mini's access

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Post by chrisbrandow » Fri, Dec 08, 2023, 10:46 PM UTC

I mean, what did they really expect when accessing a private messaging service without permission?

Maybe it shouldn't be private or whatever, but it still seemed weird to me that they thought this would "just work".

Re: Apple cuts off Beeper Mini's access

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Post by etchalon » Fri, Dec 08, 2023, 10:47 PM UTC

HPsquared wrote: post #19

rplnt wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Apple isn't blocking competitive messaging apps from their platform. They are simply blocking unauthorized access to their services. EU won't look at Slack for blocking your irc client, and EU won't look at this.

Potato, potato. Would they authorize it if asked?

No, and, at the moment at least, they have no legal requirement to do so.

Re: Apple cuts off Beeper Mini's access

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Post by amelius » Fri, Dec 08, 2023, 10:47 PM UTC

It's for your own good. Those Android users cannot be trusted.

Re: Apple cuts off Beeper Mini's access

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Post by dang » Fri, Dec 08, 2023, 10:47 PM UTC

Recent and related:

Show HN: Beeper Mini – iMessage client for Android - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38531759 - Dec 2023 (863 comments)

iMessage, explained - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38532167 - Dec 2023 (143 comments)

Re: Apple cuts off Beeper Mini's access

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Post by sonicanatidae » Fri, Dec 08, 2023, 10:48 PM UTC

focusedone wrote: post #20

Why can't we have nice things?

Humans. Humans are why we can't have nice things.

Re: Apple cuts off Beeper Mini's access

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Post by sonicanatidae » Fri, Dec 08, 2023, 10:48 PM UTC

etchalon wrote: post #22

You mean the company who controls the protocol, and the clients, and the servers for a given service somehow found a way to stop a third-party from utilizing that service without permission? I am shocked at this outcome, and shall write my senator.

Make sure you mention the tubes!

Re: Apple cuts off Beeper Mini's access

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Post by graypegg » Fri, Dec 08, 2023, 10:49 PM UTC

hnuser435 wrote: post #17

Brutal. Will there be refunds?

Well, to be fair, wasn't this always going to be the end state? I wouldn't be surprised if the choice of subscription plan was mostly because it makes "total value-time received" a really easy calculation. It worked for 2 months, you're not getting your 4$ back.

Surprised it only lasted this long though, I'm sure they weren't betting on that. I still wouldn't expect a refund for the 1,50$ of 3 weeks this payment cycle that you didn't use.

Re: Apple cuts off Beeper Mini's access

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Post by rplnt » Fri, Dec 08, 2023, 10:50 PM UTC

etchalon wrote: post #22

You mean the company who controls the protocol, and the clients, and the servers for a given service somehow found a way to stop a third-party from utilizing that service without permission? I am shocked at this outcome, and shall write my senator.

And IIRC it used some old OSX binaries to do so? Just terminating the access might be a lucky outcome if that's the case, considring the money involved.