Crazy that the CEO even tried to create an entire company based on something that they absolutely cannot control. Was this an acquisition play?
Apple cuts off Beeper Mini's access
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#42I mean, what did they really expect when accessing a private messaging service without permission? Maybe it shouldn't be private or whatever, but it still seemed weird to me that they thought this would "just work".
One may wonder if the real goal was to create an antitrust case rather than a working app.
How would this be used for an anti-trust case?
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#43Earlier quoted context omitted.
Potato, potato. Would they authorize it if asked?
No, and, at the moment at least, they have no legal requirement to do so.
If you can’t come up with at least a specious argument as to why your [insert thing] should be locked down, you should expect EU Antitrust at your door in the near future.
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#44Earlier quoted context omitted.
https://x.com/rosshudgens/status/1729889490947518868
This is still baffling. The tweets make it sound like they're competing against google and stole traffic from google, but their landing page makes it look like they're some sort of business modeling SaaS? Why would they be competing against google?
They are competing against another business (not google), and through AI generation of content (based information gathered from the competitors site map) they were able to capture web traffic from Google that would previously have gone to their competitor.
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#45> Reached for comment, Beeper CEO Eric Migicovsky did not deny that Apple has successfully blocked Beeper Mini. “If it’s Apple, then I think the biggest question is... if Apple truly cares about the privacy and security of their own iPhone users, why would they stop a service that enables their own users to now send encrypted messages to Android users, rather than using unsecure SMS? With their announcement of RCS support, it’s clear that Apple knows they have a gaping hole here. Beeper Mini is here today and works great. Why force iPhone users back to sending unencrypted SMS when they chat with friends on Android?”
Does it come down to The Law of Leaky Abstractions?
>> https://www.joelonsoftware.com/2002/11/11/the-law-of-leaky-a...
Which means that if Apple wants to change something eventually, then they will possibly break downstream abstractions and then people will complain and the downstream abstraction will say "Well Apple changed their API, it is their fault". Letting someone do it from square one would be enabling that future scenario, as it isn't "if" it changes, it is "when".
If it was an open source API that would be different, but Apple's is closed source, that is Apple's philosophy at the core. It is a closed API yah? Not even an open spec right?
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#46Re: Apple cuts off Beeper Mini's access
#47The EU should, like they did years ago with PC operating systems, mandate a default browser selection screen. And a default messenger selection screen. And a default app store selection screen.
Not that we'd get it in the US but it would help reduce Apple/Google market capture efforts.
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#48Earlier quoted context omitted.
This is still baffling. The tweets make it sound like they're competing against google and stole traffic from google, but their landing page makes it look like they're some sort of business modeling SaaS? Why would they be competing against google?
They are competing against another business (not google), and through AI generation of content (based information gathered from the competitors site map) they were able to capture web traffic from Google that would previously have gone to their competitor.
Isn't it just fighting over already low effort affiliate spam pages, anyway? The ideal result is seeing none of them.
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#49An open source client for iMessage is going to be used for fraud and spam. Before this, a device being blocked by Apple because it was used for fraud or spam would increase the cost of business for fraudsters and spammers. But now it's a matter of picking a new phone number.
Of course Apple would try hard to stop this.
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#50Crazy that the CEO even tried to create an entire company based on something that they absolutely cannot control. Was this an acquisition play?
The entire company is not based on Beeper Mini.