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Re: Apple cuts off Beeper Mini's access

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Post by JaggedJax » Fri, Dec 08, 2023, 10:50 PM UTC

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Re: Apple cuts off Beeper Mini's access

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Post by DeIlliad » Fri, Dec 08, 2023, 10:51 PM UTC

hnuser435 wrote: post #17

Brutal. Will there be refunds?

Beeper Mini starts as a 7 day trial and its been 24 hours so I imagine they'll be fine.

Re: Apple cuts off Beeper Mini's access

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Post by wmf » Fri, Dec 08, 2023, 10:51 PM UTC

chrisbrandow wrote: post #23

I mean, what did they really expect when accessing a private messaging service without permission? Maybe it shouldn't be private or whatever, but it still seemed weird to me that they thought this would "just work".

One may wonder if the real goal was to create an antitrust case rather than a working app.

Re: Apple cuts off Beeper Mini's access

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Post by crazysim » Fri, Dec 08, 2023, 10:52 PM UTC

This was the way with GAIM and Adium and stuff back in the old days. It'll be back.

Re: Apple cuts off Beeper Mini's access

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Post by DeIlliad » Fri, Dec 08, 2023, 10:52 PM UTC

JaggedJax wrote: post #31

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This status page is for their cloud offering, Beeper Cloud. Given how Beeper Mini works I don't think they could even make a status page for it?

Re: Apple cuts off Beeper Mini's access

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Post by madeofpalk » Fri, Dec 08, 2023, 10:52 PM UTC

JohnMakin wrote: post #21

this comment predicted it: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38536577

I'm pretty sure everyone predicted it. It was exceptionally clear to anyone that Apple would block this and patch the hole that allows it to work.

Re: Apple cuts off Beeper Mini's access

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Post by waffleiron » Fri, Dec 08, 2023, 10:52 PM UTC

sonicanatidae wrote: post #27

focusedone wrote: post #20

Why can't we have nice things?

Humans. Humans are why we can't have nice things.

Greed I’d argue, there are many that aren’t greedy but enough to ruin many things.

Re: Apple cuts off Beeper Mini's access

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Post by JohnMakin » Fri, Dec 08, 2023, 10:53 PM UTC

madeofpalk wrote: post #36

JohnMakin wrote: post #21

this comment predicted it: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38536577

I'm pretty sure everyone predicted it. It was exceptionally clear to anyone that Apple would block this and patch the hole that allows it to work.

but, if you read the comment, he points out why/how, which other commenters seemed confused about.

Re: Apple cuts off Beeper Mini's access

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Post by JaggedJax » Fri, Dec 08, 2023, 10:54 PM UTC

DeIlliad wrote: post #35

JaggedJax wrote: post #31

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This status page is for their cloud offering, Beeper Cloud. Given how Beeper Mini works I don't think they could even make a status page for it?

That's very likely. They don't actually say anywhere what that status page is for. I do feel like they could be and should be collecting stats on whether or not messages are sending properly or not in app, especially since this ways always the most likely scenario eventually.

Re: Apple cuts off Beeper Mini's access

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Post by madeofpalk » Fri, Dec 08, 2023, 10:55 PM UTC

wmf wrote: post #33

chrisbrandow wrote: post #23

I mean, what did they really expect when accessing a private messaging service without permission? Maybe it shouldn't be private or whatever, but it still seemed weird to me that they thought this would "just work".

One may wonder if the real goal was to create an antitrust case rather than a working app.

How is this a demonstration of "antitrust"? Apple does not unfairly prevent competition for messaging apps, as evidenced by a plethora of competition for messaging apps, plenty of which are far more popular on iPhone outside of the US.

Apple faces the heat of this competition - it frequently adds features to iMessage to make it equal or better than it's competition. Voice notes through iMessage was a direct reaction to popularity of that feature in other platforms.