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Gemini "duck" demo was not done in realtime or with voice

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Re: Gemini "duck" demo was not done in realtime or with voice

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Post by bonney_io »

dvsfish wrote: post #425

I did this at university. It was our first comp sci class ever, we were given raspberry pi's. We had no coding experience or guidance, and were asked to create "something". All we had to work with was information on how to communicate with the pi using putty. Oddly, this assignment didn't require us to submit code, but simply demonstrate it working. My group (3 of us) bought a moisture sensor to plug into the pi, and…

My version of this involved a Wii remote: freshmen-level CompSci class, and the group had to build a simple game in Python to be displayed at a showcase among the class. We wrote a space invaders clone. I found a Bluetooth driver that allowed your Wiimote to connect to your Mac as a game controller, so I set up a basic left/right tilt control using a Wiimote for our space invaders clone.

The Wiimote connection was the star of the show by a long shot :P

Re: Gemini "duck" demo was not done in realtime or with voice

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Post by antifa »

hot_gril wrote: post #460
gardenhedge wrote: post #439

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The same Microsoft that squandered MSN messenger and Skype and then brought us the abomination that is MS teams?

Those are two messaging apps regular people can actually name, unlike all of Google's messaging apps. MSN Messenger survived 13 years supposedly. Skype was also a big thing for several years MS owned it. And I hate Teams personally, but lots of teams use it.

> but lots of teams use it.

I bet most team members who switched from Slack to Microsoft Teams do not feel like they consented or were asked for their opinions beforehand.

Re: Gemini "duck" demo was not done in realtime or with voice

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Post by nojvek »

Alifatisk wrote: post #595
nojvek wrote: post #594

Anyone remember the Google IO demo where they had their “AI” call a barber to book an appointment. Turns out it was all staged. Lost a lot of trust after that. Google is stuck in innovators dilemma. They make 300B of revenue which ~90% is ads revenue. Their actual mission that management chain optimizes for is their $ growth. A superior AI model that gives the user exactly what they want would crash their market cap.…

No way, was Google Duplex fake?!

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/05/22/technology/personaltech/a...

wout paywall: https://archive.vn/Gz614

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Post by acheron »

lmm wrote: post #461
jamedjo wrote: post #406

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Chrome as a project was still a Google thing even if they used Konqueror's rendering library. The process model was the novel selling point at the time from my memory [1]. [1] https://www.scottmccloud.com/googlechrome/

The faster javascript runtime was what made it a success IMO.

The leveraging their search monopoly to push it and paying other software to sneak it into installs is what made it a success.

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Post by acheron »

paxys wrote: post #477
DonnyV wrote: post #259

This is so crazy. Google invented transformers which is the bases for all these models. How do they keep fumbling like this over and over. Google Docs created in 2006! Microsoft is eating their lunch. Google creates the ability to change VM's in place and makes a fully automated datacenter. Amazon and Microsoft are killing them in the cloud. Google has been working on self driving longer than anyone. Tesla is catchin…

> Google Docs created in 2006 Word and Excel have been dominant since the early 1980s. Google has never had a real shot in the space.

You mean 1990s? I don't think Word and Excel even existed until the late 80s, and nobody[0] used them until Windows 3.1.

[0] yes, not literally nobody. I know about the Windows 2.0 Excel or whatever, but the user base compared to WordPerfect or 1-2-3 was tiny up until MS was able to start driving them out by leveraging Windows in the early-mid 90s.

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Post by icedchai »

gardenhedge wrote: post #436
dvsfish wrote: post #425

I did this at university. It was our first comp sci class ever, we were given raspberry pi's. We had no coding experience or guidance, and were asked to create "something". All we had to work with was information on how to communicate with the pi using putty. Oddly, this assignment didn't require us to submit code, but simply demonstrate it working. My group (3 of us) bought a moisture sensor to plug into the pi, and…

Is this cheating? It sounds like cheating and reflects quite poorly on you.

If the teacher was competent, they would've asked to see the code.

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Post by Moomoomoo309 »

gardenhedge wrote: post #436
dvsfish wrote: post #425

I did this at university. It was our first comp sci class ever, we were given raspberry pi's. We had no coding experience or guidance, and were asked to create "something". All we had to work with was information on how to communicate with the pi using putty. Oddly, this assignment didn't require us to submit code, but simply demonstrate it working. My group (3 of us) bought a moisture sensor to plug into the pi, and…

Is this cheating? It sounds like cheating and reflects quite poorly on you.

It depends on what the intention of the assignment was. If it was primarily to help the students understand what these devices _could_ be used for, then it's fine. If it was to have them actually do it, well, then the professor should have at least tried to verify that. Given that it's for first-years who have no experience programming, it really could be either.

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Post by rchaud »

kdamica wrote: post #404
sourcegrift wrote: post #329

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I was at MS in 2008 September and internally they had a very beautiful and well functioning Office web already (named differently, forgot the name but it wasn't sharepoint if I recall correctly, I think it had to do something with expense reports?) that would put Google Docs to shame today. They just didn't want to cannibalize their own product.

Classic innovator’s dilemma!

More like the Acquirer's dilemma.

Google Analytics - acquired 2004, renamed from Urchin Analytics

Google Docs - acquired 2004, renamed from Writely

Youtube - acquired 2005

Android - acquired, 2005 (Samsung have done more to advance the OS than Google themselves)

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Post by rchaud »

ginko wrote: post #558
sourcegrift wrote: post #329

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I was at MS in 2008 September and internally they had a very beautiful and well functioning Office web already (named differently, forgot the name but it wasn't sharepoint if I recall correctly, I think it had to do something with expense reports?) that would put Google Docs to shame today. They just didn't want to cannibalize their own product.

>I was at MS in 2008 September and internally they had a very beautiful and well functioning Office web already So why did they never release that and went with Office 365 instead?

They did, it was called Office Online with Word, PowerPoint, Excel and SkyDrive (later OneDrive). Everything got moved under the Office 365 umbrella because selling B2B cloud packages (with Sharepoint, Azure AD, Power BI, Teams, Power Automate) was more lucrative than selling B2C subscriptions.

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Post by rchaud »

robertlagrant wrote: post #350
ren_engineer wrote: post #338

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>Google Docs created in 2006 tech was based on an acquired company, Google just abused their search monopoly to make it more popular(same thing they did with YT). This has been the strategy for every service they've ever made, Google really hasn't launched a decent in-house product since Gmail and even that was grown using their search monopoly as free advertising >Google Docs originated from Writely, a web-based wor…

> Google really hasn't launched a decent in-house product since Gmail What about Chrome? And Chromebooks?

Chromebooks are worse version of the netbooks from 2008, which ran an actual desktop OS. Chromebooks are OLPCs for the rich world, designed with vendor lock-in built in. They eventually end up at discount wholesale lots if not landfills because how quickly they go obsolete.
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