Sounds terrible. I wouldn't want to live in that city.
If you take your average North American city and switched the speed limit to 30km/h. Yeah sounds like hell.
Amsterdam on the other side is really not your average city.
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#52The "quieter" aspect is no joke. For the first time in my life, I moved into an apartment near a busy road, the noise is very difficult and I have to wear silicone ear plugs/pillows at night just to sleep because of car noise, especially people with loud motorcycles and trucks and cars that think everyone wants to hear them at 2am. Outside of that over-the-top "flex" noise, just the car noise is fatiguing. One can sa…
The loud motorcycle crowd deserve death. I am a pacifist and believe strongly that love and kindness is the natural state of man, but people unwinding their modified bikes down residential streets are just malicious monsters who torture entire neighborhoods for their perverse pleasure. I don’t buy their “to be noticed by cars on the highway” malarkey, since they wind up their motors to earth shattering levels on city…
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#53Earlier quoted context omitted.
Yeah it's a known thing now that widening highways / adding more throughput does not ease congestion etc. https://www.nytimes.com/2023/01/06/us/widen-highways-traffic... .
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Why is the argument from proponents of road widening always "It will ease congestion" rather than "more people will be able to drive"?
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#54The "quieter" aspect is no joke. For the first time in my life, I moved into an apartment near a busy road, the noise is very difficult and I have to wear silicone ear plugs/pillows at night just to sleep because of car noise, especially people with loud motorcycles and trucks and cars that think everyone wants to hear them at 2am. Outside of that over-the-top "flex" noise, just the car noise is fatiguing. One can sa…
The loud motorcycle crowd deserve death. I am a pacifist and believe strongly that love and kindness is the natural state of man, but people unwinding their modified bikes down residential streets are just malicious monsters who torture entire neighborhoods for their perverse pleasure. I don’t buy their “to be noticed by cars on the highway” malarkey, since they wind up their motors to earth shattering levels on city…
I foresee a future where people who have become deranged by motorcycle noise build small quadcopters that have a steel piece in their frame and a sound detector that when triggered make the quadcopter fly insanely fast towards a motorcycle wheel, lodging that piece of steel right inside the wheel causing the motorcycle driver to lose control and die.
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#56Sounds terrible. I wouldn't want to live in that city.
You wouldn’t ever need or want to drive if you lived there.
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#5718 miles per hour? My average pace on a bicycle is 20 mph. This is hysterical.
It'll be interesting to see the average speed change after this? Traffic jams don't care about speed limits.
I'm guessing that the improvements in efficiency (fuel, noise, wear) and safety are probably going to be worth it.
Also, I don't see cars being a fast way to get through the city with today's speed limits, I'd say my 6km commute in SF is faster on bike, especially after accounting for parking.
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#58are bikes limited to 30 km/h also?
e-bikes are limited to slower than that, and the prevailing style of acoustic bike in .nl is hard to get past 30km/h.
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#59That’s crazy slow! I can’t even begin to think of how long it would take to get anywhere. By comparison, “The Texas Transportation Commission is allowed to bump up the speed limit in certain sections to 75, 80 and 85 mph, according to the Texas Department of Transportation. The speed limit can be raised if the highway is deemed safe and reasonable..” Also.. you can typically avoid a ticket by arguing you were still d…
You generally don't go Texas sized distances in Amsterdam.
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#60Earlier quoted context omitted.
People in Amsterdam use km/h not mph. From my experience in france, on 30km/h roads, people would drive anywhere between 30-40km/h, while on 50km/h roads, people would drive between 50 and 55km/h.
Isn't that what the parent comment said?
I was just confused by the usage of mph in this context and interpreted parent's comment in a way that would mean amsterdam residents were using mph.
I also wanted to provide a data point that does indeed go in the way of the parent regarding people going over the speed limit.