That's 18.6 mph, slower than the speed limit around US schools. Is the expectation people will go 20 or 25 mph (32 to 40 km/h) in reality?
Amsterdam Switches to 30 Km/h on 80% of its Roads
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#12See also perhaps "Effect of reducing the posted speed limit to 30 km per hour on pedestrian motor vehicle collisions in Toronto, Canada - a quasi experimental, pre-post study"
* https://bmcpublichealth.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s...
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#13That's 18.6 mph, slower than the speed limit around US schools. Is the expectation people will go 20 or 25 mph (32 to 40 km/h) in reality?
No, the expectation is that the government can put up speed cameras everywhere and make a shit ton of money.
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#14The "quieter" aspect is no joke. For the first time in my life, I moved into an apartment near a busy road, the noise is very difficult and I have to wear silicone ear plugs/pillows at night just to sleep because of car noise, especially people with loud motorcycles and trucks and cars that think everyone wants to hear them at 2am. Outside of that over-the-top "flex" noise, just the car noise is fatiguing. One can sa…
If people didn’t live in such places then the housing crisis would be much worse. Infact where I live I think main roads/trains are a requirement to get the zoning to build the apartments!
I wonder if sound proofing (the expensive high density kind) might help? Depends if you are renting or not. It might cost a few $10k but could be worth it for QOL.
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#15The "quieter" aspect is no joke. For the first time in my life, I moved into an apartment near a busy road, the noise is very difficult and I have to wear silicone ear plugs/pillows at night just to sleep because of car noise, especially people with loud motorcycles and trucks and cars that think everyone wants to hear them at 2am. Outside of that over-the-top "flex" noise, just the car noise is fatiguing. One can sa…
That the thing, apartments in US/Canada are in 'trashier' pockets of the city.
Single family homes are well located mostly and don't have such problems.
Reason is simply - apartments were put there they are well after city was fully developed.
Speaking from my experience in Toronto/Montreal areas.
Thus I disagree about traffic noise, it's a necessary evil.
Real evil is vast zones of single family areas in the city limits, especially close to metro.
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#16That's 18.6 mph, slower than the speed limit around US schools. Is the expectation people will go 20 or 25 mph (32 to 40 km/h) in reality?
No, the expectation is that the government can put up speed cameras everywhere and make a shit ton of money.
i'm pretty sure that's only a legit business model in the usa
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#17That's 18.6 mph, slower than the speed limit around US schools. Is the expectation people will go 20 or 25 mph (32 to 40 km/h) in reality?
That is also the speed of an elite runner. So even getting hit by a car at that speed is bad news.
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#18The "quieter" aspect is no joke. For the first time in my life, I moved into an apartment near a busy road, the noise is very difficult and I have to wear silicone ear plugs/pillows at night just to sleep because of car noise, especially people with loud motorcycles and trucks and cars that think everyone wants to hear them at 2am. Outside of that over-the-top "flex" noise, just the car noise is fatiguing. One can sa…
So true - there are some good video comparisons that really hit this home for me, like the Not Just Bikes video “Cities aren’t loud; Cars are loud” [1]
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#19That's 18.6 mph, slower than the speed limit around US schools. Is the expectation people will go 20 or 25 mph (32 to 40 km/h) in reality?
No, the expectation is that the government can put up speed cameras everywhere and make a shit ton of money.
Why the cynical take?
Do you really think that in a country with extensive rail and a bicycle culture as a national identity that the reason for reduced speed limits is a cash grab?
Is it so alien to you to consider that perhaps the country is implementing these kinds of laws to reduce the harmful effects of automobiles with the ultimate end game being the extinction of car culture?
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#20That's 18.6 mph, slower than the speed limit around US schools. Is the expectation people will go 20 or 25 mph (32 to 40 km/h) in reality?
The expectation is that people will go <=30km/h, just like in all the other 30km/hr zones around Europe.