Gemini demo looks like ChatGPT with a video feed, except it doesn't exist, like ChatGPT. I have ChatGPT on my phone right now, and it works (and it can process images, audio, and audio feed in).
This means Google has shown nothing of substance. In my world, it's a classic stock price manipulation move.
Gemini "duck" demo was not done in realtime or with voice
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#52Even a year ago, this advert would have been obvious puffery in advertising.
But right now, all the bits needed to do this already exist (just need to be assembled and -to be fair- given a LOT of polish), so it would be somewhat reasonable to think that someone had actually Put In The Work already.
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#53How is this not false advertising?
I suppose it's not false advertising, since they don't even claim to have a product released yet that can do this, since Trojans Ultra won't be available until an unspecified time next year
possibly securities fraud though. Their stock popped a few percent on the back of that faked demo.
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#54I have used Swype texting since the t9 days. If I demoed swype texting as it functions in my day to day life to someone used to a querty keyboard they would never adopt it The rate at which it makes wrong assumptions about the word, or I have to fix it is probably 10% to 20% of the time However because it’s so easy to fix this is not an issue and it doesn’t slow me down at all. So within the context of the different…
Its honestly pretty mind boggling that we’d even use querty on a smartphone. The entire point of the layout is to keep your fingers on the home row. Meanwhile people text with a single or two thumbs 100% of the time.
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#55That demo was much further on the "marketing" end of the spectrum when compared to some of their other videos from yesterday which even included debug views: https://youtu.be/v5tRc_5-8G4?t=43
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#56I have used Swype texting since the t9 days. If I demoed swype texting as it functions in my day to day life to someone used to a querty keyboard they would never adopt it The rate at which it makes wrong assumptions about the word, or I have to fix it is probably 10% to 20% of the time However because it’s so easy to fix this is not an issue and it doesn’t slow me down at all. So within the context of the different…
Does swype make editing easier somehow? iOS spellcheck has negative value. I turned it off years ago and it reduced errors but there are still typos to fix. Unfortunately iOS text editing is also completely worthless. It forces strange selections and inserts edited text in awkward ways. I’m a QWERTY texter but text entry on iOS is a complete disaster that has only gotten worse over time.
I'm an iOS user and prefer the swipe input implementation in GBoard over the one in the native keyboard. I'm not sure what the differences are, but GBoard just seems to overall make fewer mistakes and do a better job correcting itself from context.
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#57Earlier quoted context omitted.
No. It solved it by (most of the time) giving the OP and I the answer to our queries, without us needing to wade through spammy SERP links.
How do you tell a plausible wrong answer from a real one?
By testing the code it returns (I mostly use it as a coding assistant) to see if it works. 95% of the time it does.
For technical questions, ChatGPT has almost completely replaced Google & Stack Overflow for me.
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#58I suppose this is a great example of how trust in authentic videos, audio, images, company marketing must be questioned and, until verified, assumed to be 'generated'. I am curious, if the voice, email, chat, and shortly video can all be entirely generated in real or near real time, how can we be sure that remote employee is actually not a full or partially generated entity? Shared secrets are great when verifying bu…
Ask for information that only the actual person would know.
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#59The video itself and the video description give a disclaimer to this effect. Agreed that some will walk away with an incorrect view of how Gemini functions, though. Hopefully realtime interaction will be part of an app soon. Doesn’t seem like there would be too many technical hurdles there.
They were just parroting this video on CNBC without any disclaimers, so the viewers who don't happen to also read hacker news will likely form a different opinion than those of us who do.
Re: Gemini "duck" demo was not done in realtime or with voice
#60I suppose this is a great example of how trust in authentic videos, audio, images, company marketing must be questioned and, until verified, assumed to be 'generated'. I am curious, if the voice, email, chat, and shortly video can all be entirely generated in real or near real time, how can we be sure that remote employee is actually not a full or partially generated entity? Shared secrets are great when verifying bu…
Make up a code phrase/word for emergencies, share it with your family, then use it for these types of situations.
Fair, but that also assumes the recipients ("family") are in a mindset of constantly thinking about the threat model in this type of situation and will actually insist on hearing the passphrase.