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Gemini "duck" demo was not done in realtime or with voice

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Re: Gemini "duck" demo was not done in realtime or with voice

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Post by danielbln »

zozbot234 wrote: post #19

Good, that video was mostly annoying and creepy. The AI responses as shown in the linked Google dev blogpost are a lot more reasonable and helpful. BTW I agree that the way the original video was made seems quite misleading in retrospect. But that's also par for the course for AI "demos", it's an enduring tradition in that field and part of its history. You really have to look at production systems and ignore "demos"…

The GPT-4 demo early this year when it was released was a lot less.. fake, and in fact very much indicative of it's feature set. The same is true for what OpenAI showed during their dev days, so at the very least those demos don't have too much fakery going on, as far as I could tell.

Re: Gemini "duck" demo was not done in realtime or with voice

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Post by takoid »

pizzafeelsright wrote: post #29

I suppose this is a great example of how trust in authentic videos, audio, images, company marketing must be questioned and, until verified, assumed to be 'generated'. I am curious, if the voice, email, chat, and shortly video can all be entirely generated in real or near real time, how can we be sure that remote employee is actually not a full or partially generated entity? Shared secrets are great when verifying bu…

>I am traveling at the moment. How can my family validate that it is ME claiming lost luggage and requesting a Venmo request?

PGP

Re: Gemini "duck" demo was not done in realtime or with voice

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Post by jefftk »

kweingar wrote: post #4

The video itself and the video description give a disclaimer to this effect. Agreed that some will walk away with an incorrect view of how Gemini functions, though. Hopefully realtime interaction will be part of an app soon. Doesn’t seem like there would be too many technical hurdles there.

The disclaimer in the description is "For the purposes of this demo, latency has been reduced and Gemini outputs have been shortened for brevity."

That's different from "Gemini was shown selected still images and not video".

Re: Gemini "duck" demo was not done in realtime or with voice

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Post by GolfPopper »

rose_ann_ wrote: post #11
nirvael wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>without wading through LLM generated text ...OpenAI solved this by generating LLM text for you to wade through?

No. It solved it by (most of the time) giving the OP and I the answer to our queries, without us needing to wade through spammy SERP links.

How do you tell a plausible wrong answer from a real one?

Re: Gemini "duck" demo was not done in realtime or with voice

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Post by TillE »

kweingar wrote: post #4

The video itself and the video description give a disclaimer to this effect. Agreed that some will walk away with an incorrect view of how Gemini functions, though. Hopefully realtime interaction will be part of an app soon. Doesn’t seem like there would be too many technical hurdles there.

The entirety of the disclaimer is "sequences shortened throughout", in tiny text at the bottom for two seconds.

They do disclose most of the details elsewhere, but the video itself is produced and edited in such a way that it's extremely misleading. They really want you to think that it's responding in complex ways to simple voice prompts and a video feed, and it's just not.

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Post by AndrewKemendo »

I have used Swype texting since the t9 days.

If I demoed swype texting as it functions in my day to day life to someone used to a querty keyboard they would never adopt it

The rate at which it makes wrong assumptions about the word, or I have to fix it is probably 10% to 20% of the time

However because it’s so easy to fix this is not an issue and it doesn’t slow me down at all. So within the context of the different types of text Systems out there, I t’s the best thing going for me personally, but it takes some time to learn how to use it.

This is every product.

If you demonstrated to people how something will actually work after 100 hours of habituation and compensation for edge cases, nobody would ever adopt anything.

I’m not sure how to solve this because both are bad.

(Edit: I’m keeping all my typos as meta-comment on this given that I’m posting via swype on my phone :))

Re: Gemini "duck" demo was not done in realtime or with voice

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Post by adewinter »

pizzafeelsright wrote: post #29

I suppose this is a great example of how trust in authentic videos, audio, images, company marketing must be questioned and, until verified, assumed to be 'generated'. I am curious, if the voice, email, chat, and shortly video can all be entirely generated in real or near real time, how can we be sure that remote employee is actually not a full or partially generated entity? Shared secrets are great when verifying bu…

Make up a code phrase/word for emergencies, share it with your family, then use it for these types of situations.

Re: Gemini "duck" demo was not done in realtime or with voice

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Post by lainga »

anigbrowl wrote: post #14
kweingar wrote: post #4

The video itself and the video description give a disclaimer to this effect. Agreed that some will walk away with an incorrect view of how Gemini functions, though. Hopefully realtime interaction will be part of an app soon. Doesn’t seem like there would be too many technical hurdles there.

People don't really pay attention to disclaimers. Google made a choice knowing people would remember the hype, not the disclaimer.

    :%s/Google/the team
    :%s/people/the promotion board
Conway's law applied to the corporate-public interface :)
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